Not Whole Foods? What's wrong with those people?
Oh, if we are being honest, the right will whine about taking money out of pockets for not processing asuch. But, your point does stand!
www.reuters.com
Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards
President Donald Trump's administration on Tuesday completed a rollback of U.S. vehicle emissions standards adopted under his predecessor Barack Obama and will require 1.5% annual increases in efficiency through 2026 - far weaker than the 5% increases in the discarded rules.
Would that include creating digital currencies that have the power consumption requirements of medium sized countries?
Not surprised you would support government placing mandates on business and the citizenry. Lending more credibility to the thought the left is authoritarian.Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards
President Donald Trump's administration on Tuesday completed a rollback of U.S. vehicle emissions standards adopted under his predecessor Barack Obama and will require 1.5% annual increases in efficiency through 2026 - far weaker than the 5% increases in the discarded rules.
That is what you get from my post? Again, I am all for renewables and environmental protection. We have current systems in place, many of which are incredibly wasteful. Work on improved energy consumption through better efficiency, then let the cards fall where they may on all the uses. As it stands, with energy use, renewables cannot produce near what is needed on their own. Renewables may or may not ever be a sole source of energy, but reducing non-renewable use by increasing efficiency in motors, generators, anything else that uses non-renewables seems like a fairly uncontroversial goal.
Jeebus, so many logical flaws in that article. Y'all really that easily influenced?Electric vehicles futile as a solution to 'climate crisis'
The Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory recently released a study titledwww.americanthinker.com
"The verdict is: thanks to government EV subsidies, we’re spending $23 for each gallon of gasoline saved.
Who knew government could finagle such a great deal?"
Hahahahaha.......yea, who knew!
I agree with your post. I just laugh that the same people who talk about how dire climate change is and the need for reduced and more effecient energy production also spend billions creating unneeded currencies that require Gigawatts of power to perform basic transactions.
Are they "the same people"? You are I am sure aware of the POS - who are those people?
Dire or not, environmental concerns are real. The alarmism and "the sky is falling" that many are using to drive emotional response are not going to improve anything. What I laugh about with the current renewable energy production is the use of non-renewable ingredients that can "only" be found in areas (countries) that are the worst offenders of environmental damage.
Try this one on for size....
I think we have that one pretty well down pat, care to try the no fossil fuel scenario? Oh and I don't recall reading anything about government forcing the implementation of fossil fuels nor ridding the world of the use of horse and buggies. I'm a little young to have lived through those days i had to rely on history but maybe you have firsthand knowledge,
I've thought environmental concerns were real, but frankly, the more I watch the behavior of those who scream the loudest about it, the less real I believe it is. And the rise of Crypto is a big part of that skepticism. One bitcoin transaction requires the same amount of power (about 1400kwh) as I use in a month at home.
Would you be surprised to learn that the first decade or so of the oil era saw similar levels of government subsidies - $20 bln in today's dollars or so?
You don't think the government subsidized the early oil industry?
Pretty much agree - we are early in this transition and indeed the supply chain has many issues to be resolved.
Horse and buggies is an interesting analogy. Cars and Horses coexisted in many parts of the US for the better part of 50 years. In fact, outside of the urban centers (weird) horses were required as the car wasn't capable of meeting the needs of the rural population at the time. Besides, we are a capatilism country. If renewables are so great, then they should have no problem replacing fossil fuel solutions. Yet, thus far they haven't. Why? Because they aren't ready to. Will they in the future? Sure. Just like cars eventually replaced horses everywhere. But government mandates (not incentives) to try to accelerate that progress are penalizing Americans and are the antithesis of capitalism.
Subsidizing industries to develop technolgy is in no way comparable to government mandates.
Indeed. How long do you think we will overlap fossil fuels and renewables? I'd say a century+ is about right and we are only halfway through that journey.
The article in the OP was entirely about the efficacy of subsidies.
Great goal to reduce emission but at what cost? You realize China is laughing it's ass off watching Democrats put our country at a huge disadvantage. Kind of like all the mandated benefits government imposes Employers provide Employees. China doesn't have any of that and as a result has built themselves into a world power with our money. Once again you leftist don't look at the consequences to see if they are worse than the problem you are trying to solve.
Fox Business just told me consumers have record credit card debt. Biden is on a roll.
Emission reductions price out generally. Do you have an example of where a mandate has gone too far? Methane leaks from natural gas production are one that is worth looking at perhaps, but even there the worst offenders are the lowest producers so the net impact is modest.
Are you really going to say the CCP is less socialist than the US?
Is there a dumbass in your family who calls themselves progressive? I'm just trying to figure out where this mythical leftist image of yours is coming from. If you have a specific example I'd love to discuss it. Of course, your typical response is "ain't it obvious" - but don't deflect this time, let's discuss a real-world example of "leftist(s) don't look at the consequences".
