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Devastating anti-Trump ad

Gud lowered that's a dumb ad.

I hope Trump asks during a debate what Hillary was doing while Americans were being killed in Libya, followed immediately by why "she" lied about it the next day.

Any attempt to go mushy needs to be met with repeated iterations of that question and a turn toward the camera "Yes, I say stupid crap sometimes which I sometimes regret, but unlike Hillary, I will NEVER be negligent in the protection of American lives. Mrs Clinton's consistent lack of accountability in this highest of responsibilities is unacceptable from a person desiring to be the leader of our people."
 
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I am neither a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat , both have their good points and bad. But going into this election, before all the Primaries started ,my thought was that at this point in time we need a Republican in office, and that was my mind set. But, it does not matter one bit what Donald Trump knows about business or anything like that, he may be outstanding in those areas, but, we cannot have a person leading this country who shows the kind of disrespect he does towards anyone he does not agree with. He acts like a school yard bully. The President of the United States has to have a certain demeanor, has to respect even those he or she does not agree with and maintain an even and cool head...........
 
Same verbal traps are already set for addressing "guns," current immigration policy, and terrorism.

While I don't like seeing Trump down in the polls currently, my hope is that he's playing rope-a-dope and setting up much more devastating moves in early fall when people start paying more attention.
 
I am neither a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat , both have their good points and bad. But going into this election, before all the Primaries started ,my thought was that at this point in time we need a Republican in office, and that was my mind set. But, it does not matter one bit what Donald Trump knows about business or anything like that, he may be outstanding in those areas, but, we cannot have a person leading this country who shows the kind of disrespect he does towards anyone he does not agree with. He acts like a school yard bully. The President of the United States has to have a certain demeanor, has to respect even those he or she does not agree with and maintain an even and cool head...........

Current leader believes that your thinking on this is antiquated.

For me, I want to know the "sins" of the devil I'm electing rather than have that devil try to convince everybody that they are without "sin."

Lastly, with immigration and terrorism at inflection points, Hillary is 100% untrustworthy as President.
 
Current leader believes that your thinking on this is antiquated.

For me, I want to know the "sins" of the devil I'm electing rather than have that devil try to convince everybody that they are without "sin."

Lastly, with immigration and terrorism at inflection points, Hillary is 100% untrustworthy as President.

Trump is very dangerous. He was not even the nominee and because of his stupid comments we had some of our closest Allies rethinking their entire defense strategy. We cannot have a President who does stuff like that. In the real world, his non thought out comments could cause irreversible damage very quickly. There has already been a debate before the House of Commons in England on whether he should be banned from entering that country. I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Europe he is considered a joke
 
Trump is very dangerous. He was not even the nominee and because of his stupid comments we had some of our closest Allies rethinking their entire defense strategy. We cannot have a President who does stuff like that. In the real world, his non thought out comments could cause irreversible damage very quickly. There has already been a debate before the House of Commons in England on whether he should be banned from entering that country. I don't know about the rest of the world, but in Europe he is considered a joke

Didn't current leader change defensive posture and relationships in several Eastern European nations and elsewhere?

Any new leader, along with the changing dynamics that come with time, will have leaders of all nations rethinking policies, alliances, etc.

So nothing you're saying causes me concern re: Trump.

What does cause me concern is that Hillary already has a track record of poor decision making, hell, BAD decision making when it comes to American lives.

Who's got your back with any level of believability? Not Hillary.

Who runs their mouth maybe a little too abrasively for some? Trump.

That's a very large difference, made noticeably drastic against the backdrop of current immigration, terrorism, and national security inflection points.
 
I am neither a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat , both have their good points and bad. But going into this election, before all the Primaries started ,my thought was that at this point in time we need a Republican in office, and that was my mind set. But, it does not matter one bit what Donald Trump knows about business or anything like that, he may be outstanding in those areas, but, we cannot have a person leading this country who shows the kind of disrespect he does towards anyone he does not agree with. He acts like a school yard bully. The President of the United States has to have a certain demeanor, has to respect even those he or she does not agree with and maintain an even and cool head...........


(A) Biggest problem I have with this post is the idea either republicans or democrats have much in the way of good points.

(B) As for Trump, he is the result of (A).

Solid 60% chance he screws things up. 40% chance he makes America great again and 100% that he wrecks the uniparty script and pisses off the people who have put us in this mess.

As for European opinions, don't give a shit. They need to focus on their Muslim problem and stfu.
 
Didn't current leader change defensive posture and relationships in several Eastern European nations and elsewhere?

Any new leader, along with the changing dynamics that come with time, will have leaders of all nations rethinking policies, alliances, etc.

So nothing you're saying causes me concern re: Trump.

What does cause me concern is that Hillary already has a track record of poor decision making, hell, BAD decision making when it comes to American lives.

Who's got your back with any level of believability? Not Hillary.

Who runs their mouth maybe a little too abrasively for some? Trump.

That's a very large difference, made noticeably drastic against the backdrop of current immigration, terrorism, and national security inflection points.
Don't want to get into a big debate on this but..........as far as running their mouth.........all these candidates run their mouth, say stuff just to get elected, difference with Trump is that he says stuff that is so stupid, so non thought out that it causes our allies and our adversaries a lot of concern........not that he would do the stuff he says, most of it is not in any way feasible, but that he would say stuff that is so far out there that it just shows the entire world that he has no clue.......the POTUS cannot do that.
 
To me the reason our government is the mess it is currently is because we are more worried about the outside world and not putting America first.

Europe is going down the crapper fast, they are just as incompetent as the current administration and congress. Trump may not be the answer but keeping the status quo is suicide.
 
To me the reason our government is the mess it is currently is because we are more worried about the outside world and not putting America first.

Europe is going down the crapper fast, they are just as incompetent as the current administration and congress. Trump may not be the answer but keeping the status quo is suicide.
The way the world economies and defense is set up we have to worry what others think........only thinking about us is one of the things that enabled WW II to be as devastating as it was. Had we not adopted an isolationism stance things probably would have been stopped before they got out of hand...........

Have you ever lived in a foreign country? and I am not talking about visiting for a couple weeks, I mean for years or decades? It gives you a totally different impression on how the world actually works. Not this fairy tale that people around here tend to believe
 
The way the world economies and defense is set up we have to worry what others think........only thinking about us is one of the things that enabled WW II to be as devastating as it was. Had we not adopted an isolationism stance things probably would have been stopped before they got out of hand...........

Have you ever lived in a foreign country? and I am not talking about visiting for a couple weeks, I mean for years or decades? It gives you a totally different impression on how the world actually works. Not this fairy tale that people around here tend to believe

Your level of worry on this, especially when choosing between someone who has demonstrated LIVES aren't all that important, and that accountability for others, is frankly, odd.

It's also odd that your implication seems to be that Trump is so crazy that economies and defensive pacts could possibly crumble if he is elected.

Odd...and dramatic.

Also, where is this mass of people talking about strict isolationism?
 
Your level of worry on this, especially when choosing between someone who has demonstrated LIVES aren't all that important, and that accountability for others, is frankly, odd.

It's also odd that your implication seems to be that Trump is so crazy that economies and defensive pacts could possibly crumble if he is elected.

Odd...and dramatic.

Also, where is this mass of people talking about strict isolationism?
As I said just because of his comments, which showed a total lack of knowledge and tact, our closest allies were re evaluating their relationships with us. We cannot have someone like that running this country. I really don't think he has much chance to be elected but it's the fact that he does have a chance
 
As I said just because of his comments, which showed a total lack of knowledge and tact, our closest allies were re evaluating their relationships with us. We cannot have someone like that running this country. I really don't think he has much chance to be elected but it's the fact that he does have a chance
Sounds like leftist propoganda. Looked online and found nothing but opinion pieces. Any link to something factual?
 
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I am neither a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat , both have their good points and bad. But going into this election, before all the Primaries started ,my thought was that at this point in time we need a Republican in office, and that was my mind set. But, it does not matter one bit what Donald Trump knows about business or anything like that, he may be outstanding in those areas, but, we cannot have a person leading this country who shows the kind of disrespect he does towards anyone he does not agree with. He acts like a school yard bully. The President of the United States has to have a certain demeanor, has to respect even those he or she does not agree with and maintain an even and cool head...........
Well, Hillary laughing about assassinating a head of state is the most disgusting thing I've scene from either two candidates.
 
Don't want to get into a big debate on this but..........as far as running their mouth.........all these candidates run their mouth, say stuff just to get elected, difference with Trump is that he says stuff that is so stupid, so non thought out that it causes our allies and our adversaries a lot of concern........not that he would do the stuff he says, most of it is not in any way feasible, but that he would say stuff that is so far out there that it just shows the entire world that he has no clue.......the POTUS cannot do that.

Uh, our "potus" has been a clueless ass-clown for close to eight years; spare us the lame horseshit about Trump being clueless.
 
So far I haven't heard Trump say that the most beautiful sound in the world is the Muslim call to prayer. Trump is the next president.
 
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This is what the "we have to appease our allies" crowd doesn't get. They need us a lot more than we need them. Trump gets this, most politicians do not.

For some reason the USA has been willing for decades to enter into agreements that went against our best self interests in order to make our "friends" happy. It's time to do what is in the best interest of American citizens and if their is reason and ABILITY to help friendly countries then we can do it.

Going trillions into debt and giving out 100's of billions to other countries makes no sense to me what so ever.
 
that so-called ad is a lame ass attempt....


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This is what the "we have to appease our allies" crowd doesn't get. They need us a lot more than we need them. Trump gets this, most politicians do not.

For some reason the USA has been willing for decades to enter into agreements that went against our best self interests in order to make our "friends" happy. It's time to do what is in the best interest of American citizens and if their is reason and ABILITY to help friendly countries then we can do it.

Going trillions into debt and giving out 100's of billions to other countries makes no sense to me what so ever.
First off you don't have a clue in what you are saying. I worked in NATO for 11 years, our Allies do their fair share and then some. We massively cut back our commitment to NATO over the past 20 years, there is a good reason for us cutting back, but we cannot go any further. NATO countries aside, our other major allies, mainly
S. Korea and Japan, we get get far more out of those two countries, as far as what we gain from being there than most people could imagine....those benefits are even more amplified with China's excursions into the South China sea
 
Spoken like I true world order bureaucrat. If NATO, the UN and every other major country including the USA are so smart and terrific how did the world get so screwed up?

I'm just a red state rube and you're a worldly world traveler I guess I should know my own ignorance. Congrats to you and all your international friends on doing a great job managing the world.
 
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Spoken like I true world order bureaucrat. If NATO, the UN and every other major country including the USA are so smart and terrific how did the world get so screwed up?

I'm just a red state rube and you're a worldly world traveler I guess I should know my own ignorance. Congrats to you and all your international friends on doing a great job managing the world.

NATO serves a purpose, and it does what it is designed to do, and that role is expanding in scope. The UN , thats another story. The world is screwed up, but thats because there are a lot of people in the world and we don't all agree on things, no organization is going to fix that. Every country, including the US , do a lot of things to contribute to how screwed up it is. As I said, I am not a leftist or a right winger, I really try to look at things objectively, and I truly believe its time for a Republican to be in office, they tend to have a stronger more focused foreign policy, and right now , I think we need that....but.......IMO Trump is not that Republican that we need.
Aside from our Presidential election, there is a vote this next week that could have huge implications around the world that people should follow..... the Referendum in the UK on Brexit. If England votes to leave the EU , that will have an economic impact around the world...........I think they will vote to leave, I hope they do. If they leave it will allow them to be tougher on immigration , and in control of their own economy.....and usually what effects the UK , effects us, and vice versa
 
Hillary clinton has her marching orders already. It is more Obama and even more leftist tactics that want to attack white society. It's about votes to them and securing the dem vote.

If we get trump, there is a chance that he will surround himself with really smart middle of the road people and he will take their advice. Zero chance of that happening with Clinton.
 
Hope the Brits leave as well....the EU is going to crash sooner or later, if they leave then sooner.

How such a great country could hand over political decisions to unelected clowns mystifies me. I think Germany is probably done for but the Brits still have time. Also think a lot of center-left and left parties are going to get abused in the upcoming elections.

Trump is a lot of things, but one thing he's not is under criminal investigation. He is not afraid to say what he thinks, granted some of it is a bit crazy, but it's not helped by selective editing by media outlets.

Have not lived in Europe like you, but have spent lots of time there on business and aside from making sure the cemeteries, that are the final resting place of so many of our hero's, are maintained......don't care what happens to them. Certainly don't care if they are in their footie pajamas telling the AHole in chief they are worried about Trump. In fact the more of the world that wines about Trump the more I'm convinced he is the guy to take care of our enemies, both foreign and domestic.

Our "allies" will still come calling when they need us. I also know some of the countries in NATO have enjoyed higher GDP's because they don't maintain a military stance they should/could. I've been digging for awhile for the article I read that pointed this out. When/if I find it will definitely post here.

The UN is utterly worthless and corrupt. We need to quit funding it and kick the whole lot of Anti-American aholes out of this country and that message is approved by the citizens of Rwanda, people in Kosovo and the camps where the blue helmets are supposed to be protecting people but instead are raping girls.

We have sacrificed nearly 1 million dead Americans, protecting some of these whinny little bitches and given countless billions away to the world in the name of freedom and democracy. So in the immortal words of Buford T Justice (Smokey and The Bandit) those who complain can FO.
 
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Buford T Justice................I need a Diablo sandwich and a Dr. Pepper to go cause I'm in a GD hurry. Need more like him.
 
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I am neither a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat , both have their good points and bad. But going into this election, before all the Primaries started ,my thought was that at this point in time we need a Republican in office, and that was my mind set. But, it does not matter one bit what Donald Trump knows about business or anything like that, he may be outstanding in those areas, but, we cannot have a person leading this country who shows the kind of disrespect he does towards anyone he does not agree with. He acts like a school yard bully. The President of the United States has to have a certain demeanor, has to respect even those he or she does not agree with and maintain an even and cool head...........

So, if Hilary walked past a SS agent who said "good morning" and she replied "**** off" is that being disrespectful?
 
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I kind of find the point that we should worry about what Europe thinks odd. Same with any region really. We are the greatest country on earth, why would we care what a declining empire that is being overrun by cavemen thinks?

I had a Norwegian osu student say something to me last week. He said "for some reason people from Oklahoma are really proud of where they are from." It really pissed me off but I was in a professional capacity so I just made a joke and went on. all these people come here to complain. Mexicans risk their lives to come here to wave the flag of the piece of shit country they are leaving? What am I missing?

Too much of our country has lost their patriotism or nationalism whatever you want to call it. It's sad. If I was a hard working Mexican or a moderate Muslim that made it to American soil I would say close the ****ing door behind me.
 
I kind of find the point that we should worry about what Europe thinks odd. Same with any region really. We are the greatest country on earth, why would we care what a declining empire that is being overrun by cavemen thinks?

I had a Norwegian osu student say something to me last week. He said "for some reason people from Oklahoma are really proud of where they are from." It really pissed me off but I was in a professional capacity so I just made a joke and went on. all these people come here to complain. Mexicans risk their lives to come here to wave the flag of the piece of shit country they are leaving? What am I missing?

Too much of our country has lost their patriotism or nationalism whatever you want to call it. It's sad. If I was a hard working Mexican or a moderate Muslim that made it to American soil I would say close the ****ing door behind me.

Interesting post. I think the first thing we need to do as a country is be ok thinking and saying this is the ultimate country in the history of mankind and go from there. Multiculturalism in this country shouldn't be tolerated.
 
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