Dems really hate a conversative tv show, huh?

[tlwwake]

I mean, there is like one on TV. Good grief. You already got rid of the Tim Allen one despite good ratings.

https://www.theroot.com/of-course-trump-called-to-congratulate-roseanne-on-her-1824179018

 

[HighStickHarry]

I love how this makes zero sense.

Basically, I underestimated America’s love of racism. Clearly. Not that the Roseanne show is overtly racist, or even racist at all, because it isn’t. In fact, the original show won the hearts of many Americans by being about a blue-collar family whose members had a heart of gold and loved everyone in their own blue-collar way. Remember the episode in season 5 where Sandra Bernhard’s character comes out?

 

[AC_Exotic]

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Comments are gold but this one is just normal for 33%+ of our country.



Unless it’s Roseanne constantly getting shit on for having dumb, hateful views, I’m still not interested. If it’s presented at all as 2 valid viewpoints, NOPE.

 

[purkey]

it was a great show...needs a little work, but it was surprisingly good. I was shocked to hear both sides of pretty much everything since I'm so used to getting railroaded with onesidedness on every major network. Ole Sandra had some ugly things to say about the show and she wasn't even on it yet. Something about women who back trump can't think for themselves.

 

[Medic007]

I mean, there is like one on TV. Good grief. You already got rid of the Tim Allen one despite good ratings.

https://www.theroot.com/of-course-trump-called-to-congratulate-roseanne-on-her-1824179018

What a pathetic triggered dipshit. It's a friggin TV show.

 

[JohnVoight]

I think I laughed hardest at the socialized healthcare joke (good heart and a fundamental misunderstanding of basic arithmetic). I'll definitely keep watching.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

was pleasantly surprised. it wasn’t overtly conservative either - instead, presenting divergent political ideologies, a trans kid, a mixed race family and old school blue collar people coping with change through comedy.

comedy diffused everything about it and made it relatable.

one of the big problems imo is the politicization of comedy in this country. this is a refreshing throwback and I’ll definiteky watch again

 

[SMemmett]

The original run of Roseanne is the most truly American sitcom ever. Maybe 'All in the Family', but Archie was written as too much of a caricature, I think.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

The original run of Roseanne is the most truly American sitcom ever. Maybe 'All in the Family', but Archie was written as too much of a caricature, I think.

i hear a reboot of all in the family may happen.

 

[NeekReevers]

The wife and I both really liked it. I thought they did a really good job of taking jabs at both sides and showing how modern issues like the trans kid might play out in a regular family. We'll watch again.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

I mean, there is like one on TV. Good grief. You already got rid of the Tim Allen one despite good ratings.

https://www.theroot.com/of-course-trump-called-to-congratulate-roseanne-on-her-1824179018

The left loves the First Amendment. Kind of like they love the Second Amendment. Hell, the left absolutely loves the American Bill of Rights.

 

[squeak]

it was a great show...needs a little work, but it was surprisingly good. I was shocked to hear both sides of pretty much everything since I'm so used to getting railroaded with onesidedness on every major network. Ole Sandra had some ugly things to say about the show and she wasn't even on it yet. Something about women who back trump can't think for themselves.

Women like Sandra are the ones that are insecure, not the women who voted for Trump.

 

[hollywood]

The left loves the First Amendment. Kind of like they love the Second Amendment. Hell, the left absolutely loves the American Bill of Rights.

Please explain to me how the First Amendment plays ANY role in anything being discussed in this thread?

 

[hollywood]

I mean, there is like one on TV. Good grief. You already got rid of the Tim Allen one despite good ratings.

https://www.theroot.com/of-course-trump-called-to-congratulate-roseanne-on-her-1824179018

There's some actual FACTS relating to the cancellation of the Tim Allen show "Last Man Standing" which conveniently keep getting overlooked by those trying to establish there was some "political angle" to it being cancelled.

1. The show was NOT owned by ABC, it was actually produced at 20th Century Fox Entertainment. So ABC had NO rights in any syndication (re-runs) deal, which made it a far less valuable property to them than if they owned a piece of the production company. The only way ABC made money on the show was in first run/second run during a single season by simply selling more advertising than they were paying 20th Century Fox Entertainment per episode.

2. Ratings were only looking good, if you compared it to other sitcoms on ABC, not overall. But, more importantly in looking at the ratings for its time slot, was to look at the total audience. Season 1 opened with nearly 13 Million viewers. By Season 6, it opened to less than 1/2 of that at just about 6 Million viewers.

3. The contracts with the "talent" between 20th Century Fox called for a significant increase in salaries for Season 7 on. Thus, 20th Century Fox was asking more per episode for ABC to "rent" the show. ABC did not think the cost was worth it (free market at work.)

4. It should be noted that 20th Century Fox was free to offer to any other network, including it's own network. There were no takers. And that was with Fox Entertainment having a chance to increase the number of episodes it could package as part of their syndication deals. They (Fox) would not have passed on that deal if they thought it was economically viable.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Please explain to me how the First Amendment plays ANY role in anything being discussed in this thread?

I believe if the left had its way there would not be one dissenting voice anywhere. Not even one conservative type TV show, the topic of this thread. The left would muzzle it all, calling it hate speech, politically Incorrect, uncouth, racist, blah, blah and blah. We see Facebook and YouTube take stuff down all the time using these excuses. If the left truly cared about people exercising their first amendment rights of free speech these things would not happen. The left should welcome Milo speaking at college campuses, for example. Instead, it shuts him down. Typical
authoritarian, Antifa-type stuff seems to be the way of the left these days.

 

[imprimis]

I believe if the left had its way there would not be one dissenting voice anywhere. Not even one conservative type TV show, the topic of this thread. The left would muzzle it all, calling it hate speech, politically Incorrect, uncouth, racist, blah, blah and blah. We see Facebook and YouTube take stuff down all the time using these excuses. If the left truly cared about people exercising their first amendment rights of free speech these things would not happen. The left should welcome Milo speaking at college campuses, for example. Instead, it shuts him down. Typical
authoritarian, Antifa-type stuff seems to be the way of the left these days.

Those who preach tolerance are themselves the most intolerant.

 

[hollywood]

I believe if the left had its way there would not be one dissenting voice anywhere. Not even one conservative type TV show, the topic of this thread. The left would muzzle it all, calling it hate speech, politically Incorrect, uncouth, racist, blah, blah and blah. We see Facebook and YouTube take stuff down all the time using these excuses. If the left truly cared about people exercising their first amendment rights of free speech these things would not happen. The left should welcome Milo speaking at college campuses, for example. Instead, it shuts him down. Typical
authoritarian, Antifa-type stuff seems to be the way of the left these days.

And yet, not one single, solitary word on how the 1st Amendment applies.

 

[SoonerRedYukon101]

And yet, not one single, solitary word on how the 1st Amendment applies.

That the left would get so triggered over a TV show is certainly indicative of its abhorrence of free speech protections under the First Amendment.

 

[AC_Exotic]

After watching it, I'm not sure what was conservative about the show other than Roseanne shilling for Trump in episode one.

It's just as liberal as the first edition of the show was.

 

[CBradSmith]

After watching it, I'm not sure what was conservative about the show other than Roseanne shilling for Trump in episode one.

It's just as liberal as the first edition of the show was.

Correct.

But that one offense....

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

The left has a frightening aversion to free expression, especially when the expression is against the left.

‘Chappaquiddick’: ‘Powerful People’ Pressured Studio Not to Release Film, CEO Says

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/chappaquiddick-executive-producer-pressured-1202739078/

 

[TPOKE]

If 9 out of 10 things passed were pro liberal they would bitch and whine about the one they didn't get. I don't understand how people go through life hateful and bitter toward people who don't agree with them on everything. Very violent and attacking group when they don't get their way.

 

[hollywood]

The left has a frightening aversion to free expression, especially when the expression is against the left.

‘Chappaquiddick’: ‘Powerful People’ Pressured Studio Not to Release Film, CEO Says

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/chappaquiddick-executive-producer-pressured-1202739078/

Still waiting on that explanation of how the 1st Amendment has been affected.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

That the left would get so triggered over a TV show is certainly indicative of its abhorrence of free speech protections under the First Amendment.

Precisely.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

After watching it, I'm not sure what was conservative about the show other than Roseanne shilling for Trump in episode one.

It's just as liberal as the first edition of the show was.

exactly. she didn’t move right, entertainment culture lurched left - just as she told kimmel.

 

[hollywood]

That the left would get so triggered over a TV show is certainly indicative of its abhorrence of free speech protections under the First Amendment.

Again, please explain how the "Free Speech" protections under the "First Amendment" are applicable to the conversation?

You are really making yourself just look ignorant by insisting that they apply to this conversation and show that you have little or no understanding of the 1st Amendment.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Again, please explain how the "Free Speech" protections under the "First Amendment" are applicable to the conversation?

You are really making yourself just look ignorant by insisting that they apply to this conversation and show that you have little or no understanding of the 1st Amendment.

Lighten up, 'Wood. Yes it was beyond a stretch, but I figure there's never an inappropriate time to bring up left-wing intolerance in general and disdain for the United States as founded specifically.

 

[hollywood]

Lighten up, 'Wood. Yes it was beyond a stretch, but I figure there's never an inappropriate time to bring up left-wing intolerance in general and disdain for the United States as founded specifically.

Sorry, but if someone starts tossing out arguments invoking the 1st Amendment and "Free Speech" I don't think I'm asking too much that they actually understand the underlying concept. Why can't you (and sewner red) just simply admit that nothing in this discussion is covered by either the 1st Amendment or "Free Speech" principles.

The ONLY time the 1st Amendment comes into play is when the GOVERNMENT is penalizing someone for expressing an opinion. As there is NO Government intervention, then it is inapplicable to anything being discussed here.

(Just getting real tired of people tossing out this argument, when they apparently have NO understanding of what it actually entails. And I see it a lot and certainly not just here.)

 

[CBradSmith]

Sorry, but if someone starts tossing out arguments invoking the 1st Amendment and "Free Speech" I don't think I'm asking too much that they actually understand the underlying concept. Why can't you (and sewner red) just simply admit that nothing in this discussion is covered by either the 1st Amendment or "Free Speech" principles.

The ONLY time the 1st Amendment comes into play is when the GOVERNMENT is penalizing someone for expressing an opinion. As there is NO Government intervention, then it is inapplicable to anything being discussed here.

(Just getting real tired of people tossing out this argument, when they apparently have NO understanding of what it actually entails. And I see it a lot and certainly not just here.)

Yeah, you're a bit agitated with that... while not addressing the "spirit" of the thread.

 

[HighStickHarry]

Sorry, but if someone starts tossing out arguments invoking the 1st Amendment and "Free Speech" I don't think I'm asking too much that they actually understand the underlying concept. Why can't you (and sewner red) just simply admit that nothing in this discussion is covered by either the 1st Amendment or "Free Speech" principles.

The ONLY time the 1st Amendment comes into play is when the GOVERNMENT is penalizing someone for expressing an opinion. As there is NO Government intervention, then it is inapplicable to anything being discussed here.

(Just getting real tired of people tossing out this argument, when they apparently have NO understanding of what it actually entails. And I see it a lot and certainly not just here.)

You just spent three paragraphs lighting up a sooner. Hollywood’s next stop is a class of three year olds to dominate them on pre algebra.

 

[CBradSmith]

You just spent three paragraphs lighting up a sooner. Hollywood’s next stop is a class of three year olds to dominate them on pre algebra.

Pretty much.

 

[JimmyBob]

You just spent three paragraphs lighting up a sooner. Hollywood’s next stop is a class of three year olds to dominate them on pre algebra.

Very unlike debits on the left/credits on the right which are far beyond his comprehension.