Democrats Considering Filibuster Rule Change If Democrats Win The Majority In The Senate

[2012Bearcat]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dem...nge-2021-senate-white-house/story?id=71843410

How do our poster feel about Democrats threats to change the Senate filibuster rules?

 

[aix_xpert]

These were the controls that were put in place by our founding fathers to prevent bi-polar government rule, and in the past 20 years, we've stripped basically all of them away. So why not that rule too? Our system of government will soon be dead and the minority party might as well not even bother showing up. Soon the country will be ruled by federal fiat by the 50.1% party.

 

[2012Bearcat]

These were the controls that were put in place by our founding fathers to prevent bi-polar government rule, and in the past 20 years, we've stripped basically all of them away. So why not that rule too? Our system of government will soon be dead and the minority party might as well not even bother showing up. Soon the country will be ruled by federal fiat by the 50.1% party.

Problem with one party rule is those with different beliefs tend to rise up and fight against the oppression.

 

[07pilt]

These were the controls that were put in place by our founding fathers to prevent bi-polar government rule, and in the past 20 years, we've stripped basically all of them away. So why not that rule too? Our system of government will soon be dead and the minority party might as well not even bother showing up. Soon the country will be ruled by federal fiat by the 50.1% party.

Founding fathers didn't put the fillibuster in place. Come on man.

 

[Ostatedchi]

It was inevitable once the 17th amendment was ratified. It was only a matter of time.

 

[2012Bearcat]

IMO the filibuster rule in the Senate is imperative to governing this country. We should not have legislation that half the country does not want. When one party has total control and removes the voice of the minority we no longer have governing taking place, we have authoritarian rule.

 

[07pilt]

IMO the filibuster rule in the Senate is imperative to governing this country. We should not have legislation that half the country does not want. When one party has total control and removes the voice of the minority we no longer have governing taking place, we have authoritarian rule.

The minority still has a voice, just not veto power. If you want to rule, try having more popular ideas I guess.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

I wanted the Republicans to get rid of it once they retook control of the senate, after all, you just knew it would be gone the next time a republican minority asserted it.

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

Problem with one party rule is those with different beliefs tend to rise up and fight against the oppression.

Now that I think about, I can think of more than a few democrooks (and some republicunts) whose heads would look good on the end of a pike, but I’m not naming names.

 

[Headhunter]

The minority still has a voice, just not veto power. If you want to rule, try having more popular ideas I guess.

I actually agree with this. Win the majority if you want your legislation passed.

McConnell is a pussy for not doing this. Everyone with a brain knows that the Democrats will do this if they gain back the Senate.

Had McConnell done this and the Senate actually passed legislation then maybe their popularity wouldn't be at rock bottom.

 

[07pilt]

I actually agree with this. Win the majority if you want your legislation passed.

McConnell is a pussy for not doing this. Everyone with a brain knows that the Democrats will do this if they gain back the Senate.

Had McConnell done this and the Senate actually passed legislation then maybe their popularity wouldn't be at rock bottom.

Agree to agree

 

[windriverrange]

I actually agree with this. Win the majority if you want your legislation passed.

McConnell is a pussy for not doing this. Everyone with a brain knows that the Democrats will do this if they gain back the Senate.

Had McConnell done this and the Senate actually passed legislation then maybe their popularity wouldn't be at rock bottom.

100%.....McConnell always sounds like he is coming off a 10-day bender. The Republicans are getting ready to loose the senate and why shouldn't they. They are still using Robert's Rules of Order while the scumbag liberals are using Sun Tzu's Art of War. They will never learn......its pathological how they think if they play nice, get in front of the cameras to explain their position logically or compromise with the scumbag liberals, everyone else (including the media) will do the same. They are afraid of their own shadow's and could be held up through the mail.

 

[imprimis]

Today's filibuster is bullshit. Used to be if you decided to do a filibuster you had to stand on the floor of the Senate and actually talk for however long it took. Some of those sessions lasted days. It was grueling for those filibustering and those having to watch. And no other Senate business could be conducted during a filibuster.

The rule was changed in 1975 by Sen. Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (D-MT) after the long '60s debates and filibusters (led by democrats) on Civil Rights . They went to a two-tiered filibuster. Basically, if someone states they want to filibuster a particular issue, the Senate decides by unanimous consent or agreement with the minority leader, to proceed with simultaneous bills, the one being filibustered and any one they want to move forward. This two-tiered systems allows for the Senate to continue to conduct business while leaving in limbo the issue being filibustered but nobody has to stand and talk.

I saw some interesting stats on filibusters before and after Mansfield. Beforehand, there were few filibusters due to the time it took. Afterwards, the number of filibusters exploded since one simply had to state they were going to filibuster and the Senate voted to move on with other business.

What they need to do is go back to the way the old filibusters were conducted prior to Mansfield. That would limit the filibusters and force all the Senators to actually work to solve the issues.

 

[windriverrange]

Today's filibuster is bullshit. Used to be if you decided to do a filibuster you had to stand on the floor of the Senate and actually talk for however long it took. Some of those sessions lasted days. It was grueling for those filibustering and those having to watch. And no other Senate business could be conducted during a filibuster.

The rule was changed in 1975 by Sen. Majority Leader Mike Mansfield (D-MT) after the long '60s debates and filibusters (led by democrats) on Civil Rights . They went to a two-tiered filibuster. Basically, if someone states they want to filibuster a particular issue, the Senate decides by unanimous consent or agreement with the minority leader, to proceed with simultaneous bills, the one being filibustered and any one they want to move forward. This two-tiered systems allows for the Senate to continue to conduct business while leaving in limbo the issue being filibustered but nobody has to stand and talk.

I saw some interesting stats on filibusters before and after Mansfield. Beforehand, there were few filibusters due to the time it took. Afterwards, the number of filibusters exploded since one simply had to state they were going to filibuster and the Senate voted to move on with other business.

What they need to do is go back to the way the old filibusters were conducted prior to Mansfield. That would limit the filibusters and force all the Senators to actually work to solve the issues.

Only work those parasitic whores will do is sew giant pockets on their wardrobe so the media Joey's can crawl in to suckle and to also gather campaign cash for another re-election bid.

 

[Medic007]

Only work those parasitic whores will do is sew giant pockets on their wardrobe so the media Joey's can crawl in to suckle and to also gather campaign cash for another re-election bid.

Dang windriver, that has me laughing out loud!

 

[cableok]

I actually agree with this. Win the majority if you want your legislation passed.

McConnell is a pussy for not doing this. Everyone with a brain knows that the Democrats will do this if they gain back the Senate.

Had McConnell done this and the Senate actually passed legislation then maybe their popularity wouldn't be at rock bottom.

Agree with one exception. I think raising taxes should require a super-majority.
Our leaders should look for options to fund projects, entitlements, and services through regular budgeting (give and take with offsetting service cuts) instead of flipping the switch and soaking hard-working Americans.