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[Syskatine]

Weird. When Obama was talking about pulling troops from the Middle East you were all for it. In fact, I believe you've stated that him staying in the Middle East is one of the few disagreements you've had with his policies. I know for a fact that you've stated that Hillary voting for the wars in the Middle East was your number one disagreement with her. Yet when Trump does something I would assume you would support (getting out of the wars in the ME) you seem to choose to spout the party line about how terrible it is that we're pulling out the last 2000 troops from a country (Syria) where the standing enemy has zero remaining territory and less than 2000 total troops. Have you changed your mind about war in the ME, and now believe we should be going door to door and killing EVERY LAST ENEMY COMBATANT, or is elimination of the enemy's territory and ability to wage anything beyond lone-wolf style terrorist attacks (which has been achieved) sufficient to claim victory and bring our troops home?

I haven't followed any party line, I've been all over the map and don't know what to do in Syria. The more I think about it maybe what Biff did is the smart move, I just don't know. I can appreciate not letting the military decide where the civilians want the military. I can be talked in or out of staying there.

edit: I was also lampooning the alfsplaining of exactly 180 degrees from what transpired, though.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Meanwhile, Sis just found the right plug. Been searching all day.

 

[aix_xpert]

I haven't followed any party line, I've been all over the map and don't know what to do in Syria. The more I think about it maybe what Biff did is the smart move, I just don't know. I can appreciate not letting the military decide where the civilians want the military. I can be talked in or out of staying there.

edit: I was also lampooning the alfsplaining of exactly 180 degrees from what transpired, though.

So you're post isn't in disagreement with his decision to remove troops from Syria (unlike the national news which lampooned him for the decision), but rather some assumption that he didn't even discuss it with his Military chief in advance of the announcement and that assumption is based on the General's retirement? Am I misinterpreting?

 

[aix_xpert]

Why do you care if Al Gore makes money or flies around in jets?

How is he being hypocritical? By burning jet fuel and making carbon while he preaches against carbon?

I don't personally care. However, the fact he does so while preaching to the masses about the need for carbon footprint reduction, massive weath transfers and the crippling of the existing economic system in order to save the planet does make him a hypocrite. Its why I and other conservatives alike completely disregard him and his positions, and why the Dems will never be taken serious when it comes to your original post about conservatives being lampooned for their "senseless greed and entitlement". Which unless I'm mistaken was the point of your original post.

 

[long-duc-dong]

I haven't followed any party line

 

[Syskatine]

I don't personally care. However, the fact he does so while preaching to the masses about the need for carbon footprint reduction, massive weath transfers and the crippling of the existing economic system in order to save the planet does make him a hypocrite. Its why I and other conservatives alike completely disregard him and his positions, and why the Dems will never be taken serious when it comes to your original post about conservatives being lampooned for their "senseless greed and entitlement". Which unless I'm mistaken was the point of your original post.

I will never understand how you guys can totally bite off on messaging from right wing media. So many examples of conservatives insane greed and you guys default to Al Gore. That is exactly what I'm talking about, you just made my point. That's astroturf. You don't know how he flies unless some guy goes and researches it to generate clicks. Like he's supposed to paraglide? So if the guy talks about climate change (science) he can't fly? Clever. Pretty much sideline anybody that wants to talk about the science to a large crowd. Gotta... drive to the meeting. So anybody that talks about it has to... what, sail?

So you're post isn't in disagreement with his decision to remove troops from Syria (unlike the national news which lampooned him for the decision), but rather some assumption that he didn't even discuss it with his Military chief in advance of the announcement and that assumption is based on the General's retirement? Am I misinterpreting?

What post? The post in this thread was referencing an exchange with Alf in another thread?

 

[Syskatine]

Alf for the last time, do NOT leave your plug in Dong's chair.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Alf for the last time, do NOT leave your plug in Dong's chair.

^
Bottom that sounds like a kid learning to whistle when he farts.

 

[aix_xpert]

I will never understand how you guys can totally bite off on messaging from right wing media. So many examples of conservatives insane greed and you guys default to Al Gore. That is exactly what I'm talking about, you just made my point. That's astroturf. You don't know how he flies unless some guy goes and researches it to generate clicks. Like he's supposed to paraglide? So if the guy talks about climate change (science) he can't fly? Clever. Pretty much sideline anybody that wants to talk about the science to a large crowd. Gotta... drive to the meeting. So anybody that talks about it has to... what, sail?

He was just one example. I agree that Republican's have a number of their own Greedy bastards. I've never said otherwise. My examples simply demonstrate (clearly) that insane greed isn't just isolated to Conservatives. Nor are conservatives the one's hypocritically calling out that greed. Note it's not the "right-wing" media that's saying the Queen is 'out-of-touch' due to her opulence.

What post? The post in this thread was referencing an exchange with Alf in another thread?

My statements regarding Syrian troop withdrawals was from this thread and posted by you:

"Last week you were telling people how stupid they were because Biff surely ran the Syrian withdrawal past him. Like a comedy skit, Mattis promptly resigned in protest. #4Dchess I'm sure. You've had a slow motion HRC derangement and alt facts blow up in your face slow-mo for two years now."

So I replied asking what your position actually was, as I would have thought you were all for removing the last 2K troops from Syria. I mean I think we can both agree that its usually the Repubs who are ready to go to war and the Dems who want us out of them. So you replied to that statement that you weren't sure what you thought of Biff's positions, and so I went back and reread your prior post and realized that you didn't say you disagreed with the removals but rather that Biff hadn't run the decision past his generals. Thus my question for clarity. I kept them separate posts because they were clearly separate topics in the same thread.