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Churchill’s grandson slams President of US for WWI Military Cemetery snub

Talk about some lame shit.* Churchill's bust that was in the oval office was moved to just outside the Treaty Room near the private quarters of the President, during Obama's term. It was basically switched with a bust of Lincoln. (BTW, there are two different Churchill busts in the White House.)

Now, let's get back to the primary question: How lame was it for Trump to blow off attending the celebration of the 100th Anniversary of WWI, because of a light rain? Especially, when the leaders of GB, Canada, France, Germany, etc., could make it, along with the current Chief of Staff who could make it to the final resting place of over 2,000 Marines and US Army Soldiers, interred at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery.

*This "whataboutism" bullshit is wearing me out.
 
It was lame.

I honestly think he backed out because of the public humiliation of what would happen with his hair. I'm very serious about this.

Sounds like something a malignant narcissist would do. Someone should educate him on this new invention. I think they call it a “hat”.
 
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You guys are right. Trump should have attended. Just like Obama should have attended the Memorial Day wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldier and attending the Arlington Cemetery services.
 
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You guys are right. Trump should have attended. Just like Obama should have attended the Memorial Day wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldier and attending the Arlington Cemetery services.

But, Obama...
 
Talk about some lame shit.* Churchill's bust that was in the oval office was moved to just outside the Treaty Room near the private quarters of the President, during Obama's term. It was basically switched with a bust of Lincoln. (BTW, there are two different Churchill busts in the White House.)

Now, let's get back to the primary question: How lame was it for Trump to blow off attending the celebration of the 100th Anniversary of WWI, because of a light rain? Especially, when the leaders of GB, Canada, France, Germany, etc., could make it, along with the current Chief of Staff who could make it to the final resting place of over 2,000 Marines and US Army Soldiers, interred at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery.

*This "whataboutism" bullshit is wearing me out.

First of all, welcome back.

Secondly, your account of the Churchill bust incident is at odds with this British newspaper article of the time: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...ton-Churchill-on-its-way-back-to-Britain.html
 
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It was lame.

I honestly think he backed out because of the public humiliation of what would happen with his hair. I'm very serious about this.
All he would have to do in this case is have a Marine stand at attention with one arm extended and holding an umbrella over his presidential hairdo.
 
If I opened a news web page and there was an article about Trump visiting a WW1 cemetery and laying a wreath, I wouldn’t open the link. I just wouldn’t.

I’ve seen this before. The president rests his hand lightly on the top of the wreath and baby steps forward while somebody else actually lifts the stand and back pedals the wreath into place. So contrived as to be ridiculous and meaningless.
 
If I opened a news web page and there was an article about Trump visiting a WW1 cemetery and laying a wreath, I wouldn’t open the link. I just wouldn’t.

I’ve seen this before. The president rests his hand lightly on the top of the wreath and baby steps forward while somebody else actually lifts the stand and back pedals the wreath into place. So contrived as to be ridiculous and meaningless.
What? Are you saying you refuse to accept symbolism over substance? That’s downright unAmerican!
 
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Most every President in the last 40 years has been a narcissist (with the exception of W. and Jimmy Carter -- and I'm not certain about them!).

I’ve seen Jimmy’s home in Plains - it’s fenced but right off the main highway in town.
He still rides his bicycle around town and to the Sunday School class he teaches.
I can think of less important people who wouldn’t be caught dead doing that or living in a house that small.
 
You guys are right. Trump should have attended. Just like Obama should have attended the Memorial Day wreath laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknown soldier and attending the Arlington Cemetery services.
What year was that and what was Obama doing during that same time?

You do know that President George H.W. Bush, NEVER placed a wreath at Arlington during his term as President and Reagan was only present for 4 of his 8 yrs don't you? (So long as we're going to keep playing the "whataboutism" bs game.)
 
Talk about some lame shit.* Churchill's bust that was in the oval office was moved to just outside the Treaty Room near the private quarters of the President, during Obama's term. It was basically switched with a bust of Lincoln. (BTW, there are two different Churchill busts in the White House.)

Now, let's get back to the primary question: How lame was it for Trump to blow off attending the celebration of the 100th Anniversary of WWI, because of a light rain? Especially, when the leaders of GB, Canada, France, Germany, etc., could make it, along with the current Chief of Staff who could make it to the final resting place of over 2,000 Marines and US Army Soldiers, interred at the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery.

*This "whataboutism" bullshit is wearing me out.
Incorrect on the bust(s):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...return-Winston-Churchill-bust-to-Britain.html
 
Correct on the Bust(s) the one everyone is talking about (the one that was in the oval office was "on loan" from the British Govt was supposed to be returned upon Bush leaving.) It was replaced with busts of Lincoln and MLK, with the Churchill bust moved to a pedestal outside the treaty room. The duplicate was in fact returned to the British by the Bush administration and was at the home of the British Ambassador, until it was returned, on loan once again, to the Trump Administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ma-winston-churchill-bust-oval-office-britain
 
What year was that and what was Obama doing during that same time?

You do know that President George H.W. Bush, NEVER placed a wreath at Arlington during his term as President and Reagan was only present for 4 of his 8 yrs don't you? (So long as we're going to keep playing the "whataboutism" bs game.)
It looks like you got that information from Snopes, lol. Oops, too bad C-SPAN exists...

https://www.c-span.org/video/?18422-1/desert-storm-memorial-service-wreath-ceremony

I'm not going to bother fact checking the rest of your Snopes info...
 
Correct on the Bust(s) the one everyone is talking about (the one that was in the oval office was "on loan" from the British Govt was supposed to be returned upon Bush leaving.) It was replaced with busts of Lincoln and MLK, with the Churchill bust moved to a pedestal outside the treaty room. The duplicate was in fact returned to the British by the Bush administration and was at the home of the British Ambassador, until it was returned, on loan once again, to the Trump Administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ma-winston-churchill-bust-oval-office-britain


 
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