Any of you guys see this? I just wonder what else they are doing..
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
China's motherboard hack
- Thread starter ctrawick
- Start date
them chinese are some smart cookies...we are mere pawns in the game of technology.
I joke that my job is to keep our company out of the 10 pm news and I do that by fighting the Chinese army. At least there are ways to stop that kind of attack from being effective.
We won’t sell our material into China.
Previous company I worked for was nearly involved in an Australian project (Sino-Iron) at the very last minute and with some chicanery on the part of the contractor and the primary Chinese owner (CiticPacific) they went with a Chinese company (Hilong) that threw in the services for basically free because they were using their pipe mill for pipe production and both internal/external parent coating. The project was a full blown unmitigated disaster. Hilong’s equipment looked almost exactly like ours (we had worked in China in 2005). The pipe wouldn’t field bend (bends of 3 degrees or less) without the coating product (Jotun Tankguard 412) popping off. Pipe ends were out of round, the Hilong technicians couldn’t run or repair their equipment and they were using wire wheel brushes to clean the internal field joints before coating. The steel needed a 3-5 mil profile (roughness) and an SA 2.5 blast (near white metal) which wire brushes could not do. Plus the brushes impart contaminates in the bare steel cutbacks (usually 2”) mandated by the owners. Later I talked to the Jotun rep I knew from the area and Jotun had never sold that amount of Tankguard 412 to anyone in China, so obviously the Chinese tried to back engineer the product (shocked they didn’t try to change the product name).
The project went so badly that they ended up having to pull PE liners, which was way more expensive than the option of hiring our company to begin with.
The primary guy in charge of Hilong, created a spin off company and now is in Chile working with basically the same shitty equipment. They have been forced to use a 3M product but still struggle.
Previous company I worked for was nearly involved in an Australian project (Sino-Iron) at the very last minute and with some chicanery on the part of the contractor and the primary Chinese owner (CiticPacific) they went with a Chinese company (Hilong) that threw in the services for basically free because they were using their pipe mill for pipe production and both internal/external parent coating. The project was a full blown unmitigated disaster. Hilong’s equipment looked almost exactly like ours (we had worked in China in 2005). The pipe wouldn’t field bend (bends of 3 degrees or less) without the coating product (Jotun Tankguard 412) popping off. Pipe ends were out of round, the Hilong technicians couldn’t run or repair their equipment and they were using wire wheel brushes to clean the internal field joints before coating. The steel needed a 3-5 mil profile (roughness) and an SA 2.5 blast (near white metal) which wire brushes could not do. Plus the brushes impart contaminates in the bare steel cutbacks (usually 2”) mandated by the owners. Later I talked to the Jotun rep I knew from the area and Jotun had never sold that amount of Tankguard 412 to anyone in China, so obviously the Chinese tried to back engineer the product (shocked they didn’t try to change the product name).
The project went so badly that they ended up having to pull PE liners, which was way more expensive than the option of hiring our company to begin with.
The primary guy in charge of Hilong, created a spin off company and now is in Chile working with basically the same shitty equipment. They have been forced to use a 3M product but still struggle.
Ya don't say!
I have walked into factories over there that scared the crap out of me and I never had any engineered products like you deal with running. Taiwan was kind of like that before they got their crap together. I have never been to India, but I bet there is some crazy stuff that goes on there.
Funny you mention India. Have not been there but have seen some of our techs pictures from their work there. The one pic that stands out was someone using some type of wrench as an electrical fuse, in a fuse box. The wrench was glowing red/orange. Surprised it could/did work and that the wrench didn’t melt, but our techs swear it worked and every time they went by this “house” the wrench was a glow.
I grew up on a farm in rural Iowa and amongst the dozens of other farmers I knew who would pull some pretty crazy hacks to get stuff working when it broke down, I'm not sure I can think of one who would have stuck with that once they saw the glow.
Are you kidding? That would be one less reason to go back to the house looking for the flashlight.
