Can It Possibly Be True? Has Cuba Been Demoted To “Not Real Socialism?”

[Ponca Dan]

@07pilt were you aware of this? Are these people groveling? Does this give you cover to finally say bad things about the Cuban experiment?

Cuba Demoted to “Not Real Socialism”

"We can look at socialism’s miserable track record and try to learn from what people actually do and actually want. Retroactively saying 'Actually, that isn’t real socialism' about the Cuban revolution won’t change the fact that people vote for freedom and against socialism in overwhelming...

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[launch]

You’re asking an established obtuse hypocrite that constantly moves goalposts to comment on goalpost moving?

 

[Ponca Dan]

You’re asking an established obtuse hypocrite that constantly moves goalposts to comment on goalpost moving?

I can’t help myself, I find Pilt’s comments to be intoxicating, addictive. I know there’s a soul in that body that begs to be set free. It’s my mission to show him the path.

 

[07pilt]

It is the socialist party of Great Britain, Dan. I didn't even know they existed.

 

[Ponca Dan]

It is the socialist party of Great Britain, Dan. I didn't even know they existed.

So the socialists of Great Britain are wrong to say Cuba’s socialism isn’t real socialism. Got it. Is there an authorized socialist organization that provides the final verdict?

 

[07pilt]

So the socialists of Great Britain are wrong to say Cuba’s socialism isn’t teal socialism. Got it. Is there an authorized socialist organization that provides the final verdict?

As far as I can tell, Dan, its all in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Ponca Dan]

As far as I can tell, Dan, its all in the eye of the beholder.

So the socialists in Great Britain have as much authority as anyone to determine what is “real” socialism?

 

[07pilt]

So the socialists in Great Britain have as much authority as anyone to determine what is “real” socialism?

Yeah we aren't talking about the 5th international here

 

[Ponca Dan]

Yeah we aren't talking about the 5th international here

So would I be correct if I said there is no such thing as “real” socialism?

 

[OUSOONER67]

So would I be correct if I said there is no such thing as “real” socialism?

The ones that failed, all of them, thats not real Socialism. Lol
The REAL Socialism will work!

 

[07pilt]

So would I be correct if I said there is no such thing as “real” socialism?

That would your subjective stance on the matter. Who is to say for sure

 

[Ponca Dan]

That would your subjective stance on the matter. Who is to say for sure

I guess there is nobody to say for sure. Socialism is a ghostly apparition that floats on the whims of the practitioner. it’s a nice gig. It’s a moving target that can never be tied down.

 

[07pilt]

I guess there is nobody to say for sure. Socialism is a ghostly apparition that floats on the whims of the practitioner. it’s a nice gig. It’s a moving target that can never be tied down.

Yep who is to say

 

[Ponca Dan]

Yep who is to say

Yep. Who is to say? It’s one of the great mysteries in the world.

Still. Earlier in this thread you said that real socialism is in the eye of the beholder. You have eyes. Did you behold socialism in Stalinist Russia? Mao’s Great Leap? Since we’re talking about it do your eyes behold socialism in Cuba?

 

[07pilt]

Yep. Who is to say? It’s one of the great mysteries in the world.

Still. Earlier in this thread you said that real socialism is in the eye of the beholder. You have eyes. Did you behold socialism in Stalinist Russia? Mao’s Great Leap? Since we’re talking about it do your eyes behold socialism in Cuba?

Yes

 

[Ponca Dan]

Yes

If you ever come across a country whose government calls itself socialist or communist that you disagree, let me know. I’d be curious to know which one it is.

 

[07pilt]

If you ever come across a country whose government calls itself socialist or communist that you disagree, let me know. I’d be curious to know which one it is.

NK.

It is kind of a spectrum thing, Dan.

 

[Ponca Dan]

NK.

It is kind of a spectrum thing, Dan.

It’s the economic equivalent of the Autistic Spectrum..

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

When has any marxist/socialist/communist regime NOT claimed to be the “real” socialism?

 

[soonerinlOUisiana]

It’s the economic equivalent of the Autistic Spectrum..

In other words, varying degrees of dysfunction.