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Breaking: Paul Manafort exonerated

DrunkenViking

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8 years ago for the exact crimes Mueller is prosecuting for

The lawyer that exonerated him

Rod Rosenstein

Interesting development for sure
 
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Looks like Rosenstein may be a witness. That would be worth the price of admission to watch him.

If the claims against him were criminal and Rosenstein exonerated him, I wonder if double jeopardy comes into play?
 
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Its the cornerstone of Manafort’s defense if I understand correctly.

Would a lawyer make something like this a major price of the defense if it was false and could not be proven? @CowboyJD

Judge Nap talking about it

 
Looks like Rosenstein may be a witness. That would be worth the price of admission to watch him.

If the claims against him were criminal and Rosenstein exonerated him, I wonder if double jeopardy comes into play?

Its the cornerstone of Manafort’s defense if I understand correctly.

Would a lawyer make something like this a major price of the defense if it was false and could not be proven? @CowboyJD

Judge Nap talking about it


Rod Rosenstein investigating him and supposedly “exonerating” him has no real legal meaning. It isn’t a defense to charges subsequently filed by a different prosecuting authority. Double jeopardy doesn’t apply until legal jeopardy actually attaches the first time. Legal jeopardy at a minimum is the filing of charges (with subsequent dismissal WITH PREJUDICE TO REFILING) and usually is when a jury is empaneled and the first bit of evidence is heard then the case is dismissed due to actions of the prosecution.

I’ll be surprised if Rosenstein even ends up testifying. His exercise of discretion back then isn’t really relevant to the case and whether or not their is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Also, I’d be interested in seeing what in the hell Nap is talking about and referring to “exoneration”.

So...color me dubious.
 
Good example...Cosby was supposedly “exonerated” by the prior DA saying he wasn’t gonna file against him. New DA...boom....convicted.

And that supposed “exoneration” was a formal agreement to not file charges because the civil case settled.
 
Rod Rosenstein investigating him and supposedly “exonerating” him has no real legal meaning. It isn’t a defense to charges subsequently filed by a different prosecuting authority. Double jeopardy doesn’t apply until legal jeopardy actually attaches the first time. Legal jeopardy at a minimum is the filing of charges (with subsequent dismissal WITH PREJUDICE TO REFILING) and usually is when a jury is empaneled and the first bit of evidence is heard then the case is dismissed due to actions of the prosecution.

I’ll be surprised if Rosenstein even ends up testifying. His exercise of discretion back then isn’t really relevant to the case and whether or not their is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Also, I’d be interested in seeing what in the hell Nap is talking about and referring to “exoneration”.

So...color me dubious.

No. Not necessarily.

Good example...Cosby was supposedly “exonerated” by the prior DA saying he wasn’t gonna file against him. New DA...boom....convicted.

And that supposed “exoneration” was a formal agreement to not file charges because the civil case settled.

Thank you
 
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Thank you

You are welcome.

I have seen this at my agency pretty routinely in state prosecutions and occasionally in federal prosecutions.

We present our investigation to the DA. S/he says...cant file due to insufficient evidence. New DA is elected (or new US Atty appointed), boom...charges filed on exact same evidence and investigation.

Also, you kind of have to think all the investigating that was done by Mueller’s team was more and turned up a little something different than a simple rehash of an old investigation.
 
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Its the cornerstone of Manafort’s defense if I understand correctly.

Would a lawyer make something like this a major price of the defense if it was false and could not be proven? @CowboyJD

Judge Nap talking about it


Based upon the defense’s opening statement, it doesn’t appear to be the cornerstone of his defense. It looks like it’s going to blame Gates, his former partner.
 
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Reviewing some live blogs, opening statements, and first witness....this is looking like a garden variety tax/bank fraud prosecution with a garden variety “no intent to deceive or knowingly violate tax laws” defense.
 
Two things...

First, begging for dick on this board isn't a good look for you. Get that app, the one that lets you find other dudes and have at it. No judgement from me.

Second, an opinion piece from the bankrupt Boston Herald - surely you can do better no?
Actually it’s the opinion of one L. Hollis. Never heard of her, and it is unknown whether she is bankrupt or not. Not sure what bankruptcy has to do with the opinion piece, or in what way bankruptcy discredits the opinion. Can you explain?
 
Two things...

First, begging for dick on this board isn't a good look for you. Get that app, the one that lets you find other dudes and have at it. No judgement from me.

Second, an opinion piece from the bankrupt Boston Herald - surely you can do better no?

You guys quote the NYT and CNN opinion peices all the time and think it’s dumb we call it fake news

That said, this isn’t fake news

You’ll see.

Oh, and I feel sad for you

You’ve obviously never had a woman fvck you

Fan of the dead fish variety?
 
Tom Steyer

Get ready to hear the name

Get ready to hear about his investments

Get ready for the Pussyhats to sing his praises

They hated the Koch brothers

Until they disagreed with BDD

Now they cannot defend them enough

Steyer will have Maxine Waters all wet and shit

#INPEACH

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The Steyer’s love the Pedoestas

Especially Tom’s brother Jim

Did you guys know John Pedoesta is a master of cuisine?

Apparently walnut sauce on pasta is yum yum highly recommended.
 
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Actually it’s the opinion of one L. Hollis. Never heard of her, and it is unknown whether she is bankrupt or not. Not sure what bankruptcy has to do with the opinion piece, or in what way bankruptcy discredits the opinion. Can you explain?
Your sarcasm meter is broken. Time for an overhaul.
 
All sarcasm aside. How does the claim that the newspaper is bankrupt discredit the opinion contained within it?
You might ask DJT. His go to line when faced with criticism from the media is "the failing XYZ" - the Boston Herald failed and was sold via bankruptcy auction a year or two ago.
 
He should just claim to be here illegally, then the Libs will work on getting everything dismissed
 
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