Avengers: Infinity War [Spoilers]
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From an ComicBook.com interview with Joe Russo
“I don’t think there are any comics that correlate to it,” Joe Russo said. “I think we’re in pretty fresh territory with Avengers 4. If anything, I think it’s interesting after to go back and look at some of the Marvel films and view them through a different lens. But I can’t think of any comics in particular that would have value.”
“I don’t think there are any comics that correlate to it,” Joe Russo said. “I think we’re in pretty fresh territory with Avengers 4. If anything, I think it’s interesting after to go back and look at some of the Marvel films and view them through a different lens. But I can’t think of any comics in particular that would have value.”
I would say the same thing if I wanted to make sure everyone saw this movie in theaters instead of waiting for the dvd to come out.
I think Loki is definitely dead and maybe Gamorra also. Anybody that "blew" away I believe will probably be back. Now whether they survive Avengers 4 is anyone's guess as I believe there are a lot of contracts up.
My brother's crazy theory
They are all really dead.
Black Panther's sister becomes queen and the new Black Panther
Peter's friend Miles is given web shooters by Aunt May and becomes the new Spiderman (apparently this happened in the comics).
Stallone, Ving Rhames, etc are the new Guardians of the Galaxy (their characters were actually the original GOTG in the comics).
Rumor I have heard is that
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My theories.
Loki is dead dead.
Gamora is not really dead, or is resurrected. I don't see them removing her from GOTG 3.
Vision is really dead. They don't seem to know what to do with him. He was super powerful in Ultron, and they had to work to dumb him down in this one.
The individuals who turned to ash will be resurrected. They will get Dinklage to make a new gauntlet, fight Thanos to get the stones back, and someone will use it to reverse the damage done at the end of the movie. Maybe it will require someone to sacrifice himself to use it (like maybe Cap).
Stark and Hawkeye will retire for family reasons. Roades will take over as the new IM, and Bucky will be the new Cap. Thor will leave to lead the remaining Asgardians in search of a new home. Maybe a couple of others die in the final battle with Thanos.
They are all really dead.
Black Panther's sister becomes queen and the new Black Panther
Peter's friend Miles is given web shooters by Aunt May and becomes the new Spiderman (apparently this happened in the comics).
Stallone, Ving Rhames, etc are the new Guardians of the Galaxy (their characters were actually the original GOTG in the comics).
Rumor I have heard is that
there is a 5 year time jump between IW and Avengers 4.
My theories.
Loki is dead dead.
Gamora is not really dead, or is resurrected. I don't see them removing her from GOTG 3.
Vision is really dead. They don't seem to know what to do with him. He was super powerful in Ultron, and they had to work to dumb him down in this one.
The individuals who turned to ash will be resurrected. They will get Dinklage to make a new gauntlet, fight Thanos to get the stones back, and someone will use it to reverse the damage done at the end of the movie. Maybe it will require someone to sacrifice himself to use it (like maybe Cap).
Stark and Hawkeye will retire for family reasons. Roades will take over as the new IM, and Bucky will be the new Cap. Thor will leave to lead the remaining Asgardians in search of a new home. Maybe a couple of others die in the final battle with Thanos.
Don't think so. IMO, once Groot makes the handle for Stormbreaker, it is no longer part of Groot.
Finally saw infinity war.
I'm pretty convinced that Dr. Stange's comment to Stark about 'the only way' (right before he turned to dust) is a clear indication that the one scenario he saw for them to beat Thanos involved Thanos getting the stones and thinking he had succeeded.
I'm not totally sure how it will play out in full, but I think most, if not all, of the heroes will be 'resurrected' through some bizarre means in Avengers 4. Probably due to some aspect or use of the stones themselves.
My only question is, when the full arc plays out, will they succeed in destroying the stones to permanently end the threat they pose. My guess is at least one will remain, but I suspect at least some are destroyed.
I'm pretty convinced that Dr. Stange's comment to Stark about 'the only way' (right before he turned to dust) is a clear indication that the one scenario he saw for them to beat Thanos involved Thanos getting the stones and thinking he had succeeded.
I'm not totally sure how it will play out in full, but I think most, if not all, of the heroes will be 'resurrected' through some bizarre means in Avengers 4. Probably due to some aspect or use of the stones themselves.
My only question is, when the full arc plays out, will they succeed in destroying the stones to permanently end the threat they pose. My guess is at least one will remain, but I suspect at least some are destroyed.
Ant Man and The Wasp don't tie in to Infinity War until the mid credits scene.
After just recovering Janet Van Dyne from 'the quantum realm' and having a happy reunion, they turned all of them to the feathery ash-like dust while leaving Scott stranded in 'the quantum realm'.
They are clearly going to bring everyone back somehow because fans would revolt.
They are clearly going to bring everyone back somehow because fans would revolt.
Finally saw it Sunday.
I thought the same about "thiis is the only way" . It wasn't just, "giving him the time stone" is the only way, but Letting him succeed is the only way.
Also, is Thanos dead? He wakes up with a young Gamora, and tells her it cost him everything. Are he and gamora dead and their souls are in the soul stone? Are ALL of those that vanished in the soul stone? I thought it was interesting that outside of Rocket and Nebula, Everone introduced after the attack on NY, the 1st Avengers, is dead, but all of the original Avengers are alive.
If Thanos IS dead, does that mean the gauntlet is sitting wherever he warped to? Do the remaining Avengers figure out how to use it to turn back time?
Don't know about Thanos. The scene where he looks at the sunset/sunrise after the deed was something I didn't fully take in so I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be in the 'real' universe.
I saw a theory that all of the disappeared are trapped in the soul stone. Another theory is that Scarlet Witch might have the power to escape the soul stone.
I thought the way they turned to dust might be a clue because it wasn't like they physically dissolved into dust - the effect was different.
Thanos is retired to a quiet life void of overpopulation
Dr Strange quotes....
Dr. Stephen Strange: [to Stark] If it comes to saving you, or the kid, or the Time Stone, I will not hesitate to let either of you die.
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Dr. Stephen Strange: I went forward in time... to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Dr. Stephen Strange: Fourteen million six hundred and five.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
Dr. Stephen Strange: ...One.
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Dr. Stephen Strange: Tony... there was no other way.
[turns into dust and blows away]
Dr Strange knows that there is only one way they defeat Thanos, and it involved Thanos getting his hands on all 6 gems and snapping his fingers.
As to exactly where Thanos is now, I don't have a guess, but I do think he has the damaged Infinity Gauntlet with him. (It was smoking and broken after he snapped his fingers the first time).
My guess is that they get Dinklage's character to make a new Infinity Gauntlet, and somehow find a way to get to where Thanos is currently and steal back the stones so they can reverse what he did with his finger snap.
The question is, with Dr Strange gone, how do they cross into whatever realm Thanos is in at the end of the movie?
-Maybe Ant Man can get there from the Quantum Realm? They did say that time works differently there and that it is a realm that has connections to other realities.
-Maybe Wong can use his spells to get them to Thanos?
-Maybe Thor can open a gateway to another realm since he is able to control Bifrost with his new weapon.
-Maybe Captain Marvel has the ability to move between realms.
I can't think of any other possibilities.
Dr. Stephen Strange: [to Stark] If it comes to saving you, or the kid, or the Time Stone, I will not hesitate to let either of you die.
****************************************
Dr. Stephen Strange: I went forward in time... to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
Peter Quill: How many did you see?
Dr. Stephen Strange: Fourteen million six hundred and five.
Tony Stark: How many did we win?
Dr. Stephen Strange: ...One.
*********************************************
Dr. Stephen Strange: Tony... there was no other way.
[turns into dust and blows away]
Dr Strange knows that there is only one way they defeat Thanos, and it involved Thanos getting his hands on all 6 gems and snapping his fingers.
As to exactly where Thanos is now, I don't have a guess, but I do think he has the damaged Infinity Gauntlet with him. (It was smoking and broken after he snapped his fingers the first time).
My guess is that they get Dinklage's character to make a new Infinity Gauntlet, and somehow find a way to get to where Thanos is currently and steal back the stones so they can reverse what he did with his finger snap.
The question is, with Dr Strange gone, how do they cross into whatever realm Thanos is in at the end of the movie?
-Maybe Ant Man can get there from the Quantum Realm? They did say that time works differently there and that it is a realm that has connections to other realities.
-Maybe Wong can use his spells to get them to Thanos?
-Maybe Thor can open a gateway to another realm since he is able to control Bifrost with his new weapon.
-Maybe Captain Marvel has the ability to move between realms.
I can't think of any other possibilities.
The fact that Fury 'paged' Cap Marvel is certainly important. The CM movie should give several clues why she would be critical to undoing what Thanos did.
From a story perspective, having Scott and CM serve irreplaceable roles in fixing things would be compelling IMHO.
Are you suggesting that Fury knew why he was turning to ash, and that CM knew how to save the day?
I assumed that he knew shit had really hit the fan and it was time to call the most powerful entity he knew.
Of course, that leads to the question...why didn’t he page her during the other Avengers movie doomsday scenarios?
My presumption is the latter. I was only implying that the story telling technique of placing that in the tag implies that she will be a critical component.
As for your last question, I think they have some work to do to explain her absence in a way that makes sense.
Agree. Hopefully they incorporate the explanation into the CM movie. It seems like an obvious enough issue that they will figure out a logical way to address it.
Is her movie set in the 90's? Figured it was a prequel of sorts, but may be she time hopped there. Explains why she would use a pager to communicate with modern Nick.
I finally watched it with my 16 year old son. We had to keep pausing to explain to me what in the hell was going on. It does make you wonder where they will go moving forward.
I took it as Dr. Strange saw that only Tony Stark could defeat Thanos or maybe end it at some point. He only offered up the stone when Tony was about to be killed. If Dr. Strange knew that Thanos needed the stone then why all the theatrics in trying to get the gauntlet? Why wouldn't he just offer up the Stone earlier. Why would he wait until Tony was about to die.
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Well, Captain Marvel can also handle the quantum realm.
It’s also possible she is wielding the 7th stone...
It’s also possible she is wielding the 7th stone...
Maybe so. It could be explained in multiple ways. Maybe Thanos needed to believe that he was all powerful and had accomplished his goal, so that he would let his guard down. Also, maybe it was important that his henchmen were all killed, which would not have happened if they had made his victory easier.
They need to stop Thanos before he makes his getaway in the sinister Thanos-copter.
