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think the key is the andApparently there have been three four time Michigan champs.
With one graduating this year named Stoney Buell.
Stoney Buell
The Dundee senior can become just the third Michigan wrestler to win four individual and four team state championships this season, joining Davison's Brent Metcalf (2002-05) and Lowell's Austin Boone (2017-20).
Is Beard still at PSU? After bringing in Max Dean I figured he would bolt.
I hope that you are right, that 1 of these guys can wrestle 41. The Penn. St. forum indicated that the competition at 57 is not easier for the Cowboys versus Penn. St. We have Sheets next year and then Travis Mastrogiavanni after a year in the room and some help bulking up would be Boone's main competition at 157. Voinovich would be his competition at 149. Why would Boone come to Stillwater? Maybe he believes he is better or maybe he has been told Travis doesn't cut any weight at all to wrestle 152. Wrassler I think you have expressed the idea maybe Travis can wrestle 141 by cutting normal weight for a college wrestler. Otherwise giving scholarship money to Boone doesn't seem to be a good move.Interesting. Ok, I'll say it, Boone could be a possible 141. He wrestled 145 as a senior. If he's a 149/157 as people have said, that's where Voinovich & Mastro seem to project. Feels like the coaches believe one of the 3 can make 141. Otherwise you're potentially putting a top 40 guy on the bench.
A 157lber isn't cutting down to 141. Have we ever seen any issues at 157 - Marsteller, Joe etc.? Has Sheets had any injury issues? It never hurts to have an extra guy at 157, what if the 165 gets injured or moves up to 174? Doubt they had to use much scholarship money plus AJ could always employ the extra to help to sell t-shirts.Interesting. Ok, I'll say it, Boone could be a possible 141. He wrestled 145 as a senior. If he's a 149/157 as people have said, that's where Voinovich & Mastro seem to project. Feels like the coaches believe one of the 3 can make 141. Otherwise you're potentially putting a top 40 guy on the bench.
Harley, was wondering where you've been. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either unless the coaches believe all 3 will start. I still believe Mastro can make 141. I saw a picture recently of both Mastro's together. Didn't look like a 125 & a 157 to me. More like a 15-20 lb difference.I hope that you are right, that 1 of these guys can wrestle 41. The Penn. St. forum indicated that the competition at 57 is not easier for the Cowboys versus Penn. St. We have Sheets next year and then Travis Mastrogiavanni after a year in the room and some help bulking up would be Boone's main competition at 157. Voinovich would be his competition at 149. Why would Boone come to Stillwater? Maybe he believes he is better or maybe he has been told Travis doesn't cut any weight at all to wrestle 152. Wrassler I think you have expressed the idea maybe Travis can wrestle 141 by cutting normal weight for a college wrestler. Otherwise giving scholarship money to Boone doesn't seem to be a good move.
Prob couldn't make the cut to 157.He should have transferred to Appalachian State in Boone NC. Then he could have told everyone the town was named after his great great Grandfather Dan'l Boone.
For those of you who don't remember;
Dan'l Boone was a man - yes a big man
With an eye like an eagle and as tall as a mountain was he!!
The little Mastro can probably only hold 125 one more year.
Who knows how guys will grow or develop. Let’s keep bringing in the best talent possible with a decent spread (which is what we are doing) and let the wrestlers figure it out. It’s worked for PSU and that’s who we and everyone else are chasing.
Disagree. We can't operate like PSU because no one can. We have to be smart with scholly $.
Rob Koll commented on PSU's ridiculous recruiting and mentioned they have $9 million in RTC assets. Cornell is 2nd with $1.6 million. That allows PSU to go after #1 PFP Kerkvliet to replace top 20 PFP Nevills, and a finalist like Dean to replace top 20 PFP Beard. They tried to do the same with Wick replacing Joe Lee. No other school has the $ to correct recruiting "mistakes" like they do.
This isn't a knock on Boone either. He may turn out to be star. Who knows. But we need to be careful about who we target. Besides Voinovich, Mastro, & Boone, we likely also have $ tied up in Balmeceda, another 149/157 guy who was top 25 coming out of HS.
Not saying we're irresponsible. I replied to your comment about PSU's recruiting. If a top guy doesn't work out for them, they just get another top guy to replace him. Besides getting Dean and going after Wick, they also made a play for Shane Griffith this off-season. We don't have that luxury.That’s true if we think we are being irresponsible with scholarship money? We don’t know that. We don’t know what affect the Voinavichs move to Stillwater has had on his scholarship and tuition situation. We don’t know the academic situations of any of the ones mentioned above.
It’s very possible that some situation made taking Boone a very astute move scholarship allocation speaking. We need more talent. Sure we need to be smart but we also can’t overthink it.
So how much did he cost?Not saying we're irresponsible. I replied to your comment about PSU's recruiting. If a top guy doesn't work out for them, they just get another top guy to replace him. Besides getting Dean and going after Wick, they also made a play for Shane Griffith this off-season. We don't have that luxury.
My point about Boone was that I would think the coaches view him as a starter. Same with Voinovich & Mastro. Top 40 guys usually aren't brought in for depth. Now the challenge is fitting them in the lineup. Somebody needs to go 141 or 165.
ftfyRob Koll commented on PSU's ridiculous recruiting and mentioned they have $9 million in RTC assets. Cornell is 2nd with $1.6 million. That allows PSU to cheat at a level of 5.6x above Cornell.
When you have 5.6 times the money - you don't need to cheat. They have the money and they are using it.ftfy
Don't think you understand what's been going on.When you have 5.6 times the money - you don't need to cheat. They have the money and they are using it.
Explain it then.. How are they cheating, and how do we start doing it? Its sad that a school of Oklahoma States status in wrestling is doing what we are doing. We can't stay healthy, we aren't that competitive at Nationals anymore and it seems like we have to many guys who project at one or two weights and can't cut it anywhere.Don't think you understand what's been going on.
Why would we want to?Explain it then.. How are they cheating, and how do we start doing it? Its sad that a school of Oklahoma States status in wrestling is doing what we are doing. We can't stay healthy, we aren't that competitive at Nationals anymore and it seems like we have to many guys who project at one or two weights and can't cut it anywhere.
I don't care if Penn State has 100 X the money we have there is still a scholarship limit so what they can do is spend more on their RTC and their coaches. All of our scholarships are vested so scholarship wise we have as much as them. If they are spending it on funding wrestlers over and above the scholarship level then they are doing it illegally. At least that is my take on the situation.Why would we want to?
Thats why is called "cheating."I don't care if Penn State has 100 X the money we have there is still a scholarship limit so what they can do is spend more on their RTC and their coaches. All of our scholarships are vested so scholarship wise we have as much as them. If they are spending it on funding wrestlers over and above the scholarship level then they are doing it illegally. At least that is my take on the situation.
I do not want to get into a political discussion here, but preferring a candidate and letting that be known does not seem like interference. I mean - look at the news. The mainstream media prefers one candidate and it is obvious and the conservative media prefers another candidate and they make it obvious. Is that interference?I do not think that PSU is cheating, but they are taking an aggressive stance on what can be done with their RTC and jobs. I think your Russian interference is a poor reference as we all know the Russians had active bots posting items on social media for one candidate and negative about another.