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Another reason to hate Alabama

I imagine that is not uncommon for 80% of the players in this game.
 
The dumb sobs elected Doug Jones, but Georgia keeps electing John Lewis so both states suck.
 
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The dumb sobs elected Doug Jones, but Georgia keeps electing John Lewis so both states suck.
As opposed to an ignorant fundamentalist and (formerly) 34 year old district attorney who preyed on 14 year old girls and believes his interpretation of the Bible trumps the U.S. Constitution? Doug Jones was the correct choice in that election.
 
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I remember when kids were taught to respect the position of POTUS no matter the party affiliations. Kinda sad. I sure would have been tickled pink to meet Obama in real life and I wasn’t a fan of him at all.
 
As opposed to an ignorant fundamentalist and 34 year old district attorney who preys on 14 year old girls and believes his interpretation of the Bible trumps the U.S. Constitution? Doug Jones was the correct choice in that election.
Actually neither was a good choice IMO but yes he was the lesser of two evils.
 
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John Lewis is a civil rights hero. The one I don't get is Hank "Guam might tip over" Johnson.
 
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I remember when kids were taught to respect the position of POTUS no matter the party affiliations. Kinda sad. I sure would have been tickled pink to meet Obama in real life and I wasn’t a fan of him at all.
The sort of lack of respect to which you refer got started on the steep downhill slide in the early 1990s by Newt Gingrich, a former back-bencher in the U.S. House. He changed partisan politics in a bad (negative) way by repeatedly charging that those who took different positions from him weren’t just wrong on the issues but were “sick” and “corrupt” and “twisted.” The serious deepening of hyperpartisanship we see in politics today really got it’s start with Newt Gingrinch, of whom it was often said he’d have 50 new ideas a day—and 49 of them were terrible.

I used to be very active in GOP politics. I helped with Senator Henry Bellmon’s 1974 re-election campaign and was a U.S. Senate Intern in Senator Bellmon’s DC office in summer 1975. I learned a great deal about government and public service from Senator Bellmon who set a great example of bipartisan service to our state and our nation. Too bad that is so scarce in today’s political environment.
 
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The sort of lack of respect to which you refer got started on the steep downhill slide in the early 1990s by Newt Gingrich, a former back-bencher in the U.S. House. He changed partisan politics in a bad (negative) way by repeatedly charging that those who took different positions from him weren’t just wrong on the issues but were “sick” and “corrupt” and “twisted.” The serious deepening of hyperpartisanship we see in politics today really got it’s start with Newt Gingrinch, of whom it was often said he’d have 50 new ideas a day—and 49 of them were terrible.
Geez, I wonder if you’re a liberal??? Obama was the most divisive President we’ve ever had.
 
The sort of lack of respect to which you refer got started on the steep downhill slide in the early 1990s by Newt Gingrich, a former back-bencher in the U.S. House. He changed partisan politics in a bad (negative) way by repeatedly charging that those who took different positions from him weren’t just wrong on the issues but were “sick” and “corrupt” and “twisted.” The serious deepening of hyperpartisanship we see in politics today really got it’s start with Newt Gingrinch, of whom it was often said he’d have 50 new ideas a day—and 49 of them were terrible.

It happened way before that. The Democrats hyperventilating over every move Reagan made was a regular exercise. What they did in the Bork confirmation was inexcusable.
 
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The sort of lack of respect to which you refer got started on the steep downhill slide in the early 1990s by Newt Gingrich, a former back-bencher in the U.S. House. He changed partisan politics in a bad (negative) way by repeatedly charging that those who took different positions from him weren’t just wrong on the issues but were “sick” and “corrupt” and “twisted.” The serious deepening of hyperpartisanship we see in politics today really got it’s start with Newt Gingrinch, of whom it was often said he’d have 50 new ideas a day—and 49 of them were terrible.
I am sure it’s the republicans fault and not the parents of today. You guys have more blame to pass around then a criminal in jail. Parents don’t teach their kids to respects those with possible opposing views. What is that saying there is more then one way to skin a cat but please tell me how Newt raised all these disrespectful kids again. Thanks
 
If I remember right the Democrats worked with Reagan. That is how Teagan got a lot of things through.
 
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If I remember right the Democrats worked with Reagan. That is how Teagan got a lot of things through.

Back then you still had fiscally conservative blue dog democrats. Now they all come from the Bernie Sanders school of economics
 
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And a big chunk of the Republican Party have moved further right - tea party. It comes back to little chance to work together.
 
Back to more on topic.

It's not good for College Football for Alabama, or and one team to win so often.
 
I remember when kids were taught to respect the position of POTUS no matter the party affiliations. Kinda sad.

The sort of lack of respect to which you refer got started on the steep downhill slide in the early 1990s by Newt Gingrich, a former back-bencher in the U.S. House. He changed partisan politics in a bad (negative) way by repeatedly charging that those who took different positions from him weren’t just wrong on the issues but were “sick” and “corrupt” and “twisted.” The serious deepening of hyperpart
isanship we see in politics today really got it’s start with Newt Gingrinch, of whom it was often said he’d have 50 new ideas a day—and 49 of them were terrible.

Very true. I might go back to Rush Limbaugh -- he really demonized Clinton in a way that most people would be turned off, too. Really just classic propaganda. And it wasn't debate or dialogue, him and Newt did it without someone sitting across the desk to refute them.

What they did in the Bork confirmation was inexcusable.

Bork was bad news. He was the one brown-nosing sycophant that lacked the integrity to say "No Sir" to Richard Nixon when he fired the special prosecutor. Two or three other republican appointees had the spine to refuse the order. Not Bork -- whatever it took to ingratiate himself with power. I'm glad everyone remembered what a ring grabbing opportunist he was during the Nixon stuff.

It's such hogwash that he was some type of intellectual. His law philosophy was the same as his personal philosophy: help the bottom line of the wealthy and powerful. He also needed a haircut and shave.
 
Personally, as an officer in the Army at the Pentagon when Clinton was the President, I had a hard time respecting the Office of the President with the Monica affair. I remember her sitting in the seats reserved for Generals and dignitaries during a ceremony at the Pentagon.
 
It's amazing how selective and forgetful one's memory can get when it comes to political sides.
Precisely. Politics and government has been nasty since the beginning of time and politics and government has been nasty since the founding of this Republic. If anyone thinks partisan rancor is a recent phenomena only then they do not read history. And Newt Gingrich and the Republicans sure as hell did not invent nasty politics by any stretch of the imagination. The things that were said about Barry Goldwater during the 1964 campaign were out-and-out venomous lies and scare tactics. The things that were said about Ronald Reagan were very much akin to the kind of things being said about Trump today. Now, conservatives have done a better job in recent years of fighting back. They used to just roll over and play dead. Trump takes it to a different level by laughing at his political enemies and poking at them. I don't see anything wrong with that, as the left takes itself way too seriously anyway.
 
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Precisely. Politics and government has been nasty since the beginning of time and politics and government has been nasty since the founding of this Republic. If anyone thinks partisan rancor is a recent phenomena only then they do not read history. And Newt Gingrich and the Republicans sure as hell did not invent nasty politics by any stretch of the imagination. The things that were said about Barry Goldwater during the 1964 campaign were out-and-out venomous lies and scare tactics. The things that were said about Ronald Reagan were very much akin to the kind of things being said about Trump today. Now, conservatives have done a better job in recent years of fighting back. They used to just roll over and play dead. Trump takes it to a different level by laughing at his political enemies and poking at them. I don't see anything wrong with that, as the left takes itself way too seriously anyway.

Jefferson stabbing Adams in the back as his VP was scandalous. The infighting on Washington's staff is never spoken about these days. Alexander Hamilton might have been the worst of them all.
 
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