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Another piece to the puzzle NSA

You don't think the revelation every conversation is stored is huge? Maybe I read it wrong or this was common knowledge.
 
You don't think the revelation every conversation is stored is huge? Maybe I read it wrong or this was common knowledge.
Snowden exposed all that - PRISM, Conveyance and Nucleon are pretty well known as repositories of captured voice data. Fallout is the metadata system.

Not a lot new here.
 
Based on Binney's credentials and bio, I would say this is huge. He wasn't exactly a dummy or unimportant:


"William (Bill) Binney is a former NSA crypto-mathematician, and worked in the agency’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center.

As Technical Director of the World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, Binney mentored some 6000 technical analysts that eavesdropped on foreign nations, collecting private phone calls and emails for NSA databases."


Source: https://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe
 
You don't think the revelation every conversation is stored is huge? Maybe I read it wrong or this was common knowledge.

I don't think the assertion by someone out of the agency since 2001 that says ""I think the president is absolutely right. His phone calls, everything he did electronically, was being monitored," Bill Binney, a 36-year veteran of the National Security Agency who resigned in protest from the organization in 2001, told Fox Business on Monday. Everyone's conversations are being monitored and stored, Binney said."

But also says....

"This is the difference between being correct and right," Mukasey said. "The president was not correct in saying President Obama ordered a tap on a server in Trump Tower. However, I think he's right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general – at the Justice Department through the FISA court."

And.....

What Binney did not delve into, however, was if President Obama directed surveillance on Trump for political purposes during the campaign, a core accusation of Trump's. But Binney did say events such as publication of details of private calls between President Trump and the Australian prime minister, as well as with the Mexican president, are evidence the intelligence community is playing hardball with the White House.

Is due any assumption of credibility to the point that his allegations are accepted gospel truth.
 
Snowden exposed all that - PRISM, Conveyance and Nucleon are pretty well known as repositories of captured voice data. Fallout is the metadata system.

Not a lot new here.

This too.
 
Based on Binney's credentials and bio, I would say this is huge. He wasn't exactly a dummy or unimportant:


"William (Bill) Binney is a former NSA crypto-mathematician, and worked in the agency’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center.

As Technical Director of the World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, Binney mentored some 6000 technical analysts that eavesdropped on foreign nations, collecting private phone calls and emails for NSA databases."


Source: https://www.whistleblower.org/bio-william-binney-and-j-kirk-wiebe

He isn't actually a particularly credible source for stating definitely what is going on or went on in an agency he has been out of for 16 years. Certainly not to the extent of accepting his statements as gospel without....you know....proof.
 
The one crazy thing about all the spying and collection of private citizens' data is that we are okay with it.

We simply went, "what? They can't do that! It's unconstitution. Hey did you see what happened on that reality show last night?" and moved on with our lives.

There's been no revolution. No million citizen marches. Nothing.

We let them put just the tip in, and then give them an inch and then another inch and other, and suddenly we are bound and gagged and getting anally gang raped and don't even object because...Harambe or April or whatever the name of that dead ****ing lion was.
 
He isn't actually a particularly credible source for stating definitely what is going on or went on in an agency he has been out of for 16 years. Certainly not to the extent of accepting his statements as gospel without....you know....proof.

Yeah, also good points.
 
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He isn't actually a particularly credible source for stating definitely what is going on or went on in an agency he has been out of for 16 years. Certainly not to the extent of accepting his statements as gospel without....you know....proof.

No joke. He owes his soul to the company store which, in his case, is clueless self-pimping:

 
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