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An Essay

Been Jammin

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To the Young Men and Women of America, From the GOP
SEPTEMBER 28, 2018 / JOHN PAVLOVITZ
(Warning: The following may be triggering for survivors of abuse.)To Young Men and Women of America,Have you heard us? Is our message getting through? We’ve been talking to you this week, trying to make sure you understand who we are, what kind of America we’re building here, the future nation we’re dreaming of.We think we’ve been clear and compelling in our declarations, and we’ve done our best not to leave any ambiguity as to our hearts or our plans or our intentions.We think our tirades and our condescension and our insults and our sneering tantrums have spoken eloquently about us and about you.We hope Lindsey and Donald and Chuck and Orrin and Mitch and Brett and Susan have made a strong case—but if not, let us be more explicit in these moments, so there can be no confusion. After all, November is coming and we want you to be certain…To the Young Men of America,You can do whatever you want to young women.You can disregard their humanity, force yourself on them physically, ignore their pleas to stop, proceed without consent, hurt them, humiliate them, indulge your urges, treat them as property, and silence, slander, and intimidate them after the fact.You can do this as often as you like, to as many young girls as opportunity and your desires allow.We will have your back (providing you are white, wealthy, and one day vote Republican.)We will marshal our every resource of finance and position and privilege in protecting and defending you. You will receive sanctuary in our midst, regardless of the horrors you are responsible for or the recklessness and brazenness of your conduct.We will help you in any way we can, to malign your accuser’s character, destroy their credibility, and embarrass them further.We will blame alcohol or her memory or her behavior in the past. We will talk about your viciousness in ways designed to make it seem commonplace. We will paint you in as flattering a portrait as we can, so that you actually come out looking like the victim, so that the accusations are actually a help. We will have no loyalty to the truth or to goodness or decency, if such things pose a threat to either your narrative or our prosperity. We’ll use the invaluable resource of the Evangelical Church to even make supporting you, part of God’s will.If no other option is available, we will simply ignore what you’ve done. (After all we installed a President that way.)We will never allow the violence you make young women endure, to prevent you from having opportunity and advancement and success. We can promise you that.And to Young Women of America,You don’t matter.Not your trauma or your pain, not the innocence you lose, not the damage you sustain, not the scars you are marked by, not the nightmares you are haunted by, not the peace you no longer find, not the confidence that leaves you, not the fear that is ever present, not the shame that you cannot shake, not the silence you are imprisoned by. We simply do not see you as valuable—at least not as valuable as the status quo we’re protecting or the legislation we’re coveting or the religion we’re perpetuating or the votes we’re needing.You are the acceptable collateral damage of our misogyny and entitlement.Your body, your emotional health, and your sense of safety—simply aren’t worth more than a Supreme Court seat.Of course, should a pregnancy somehow be created by your violation, we will vigorously demand that you be forced to carry it, even if it exacerbates your pain and magnifies your despair. After all, we urgently need to perpetuate the appearance that we are pro-life—just not your life.We can imagine this is less than ideal for you, but we hope you understand that this is how it has always been, and we are counting on you to indulge us one last time, and we appreciate your cooperation.After all, ee have a Patriarchy and a predatory President to protect.So, young men and women of America, we hope you see us with clarity. We hope that in these days, we are exposing ourselves fully. We hope you know who we are now.We’ll see you in November.Sincerely,The Republican Party of 2018 If you are a survivor and you need help, or if you want to find out how you can be an advocate for survivors, here are some places to start:RAINN National Sexual Assault Hotline EROC (End Rape on Campus) National Domestic Violence Hotline Safe Horizon INCITE (For Women, Gender Non-Conforming, and Trans people of Color) On Eagle’s Wings Ministries Human Rights Campaign (LGBTQ) NCLR Nation Center for Lesbian Rights Not Alone Safe Helpline (Victim support for members of Military) Share this:Facebook3K+TwitterGooglePinterest14RedditPrintEmailLike this:Like Loading..." ]

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(Warning: The following may be triggering for survivors of abuse.)

To Young Men and Women of America,

Have you heard us?
Is our message getting through?

We’ve been talking to you this week, trying to make sure you understand who we are, what kind of America we’re building here, the future nation we’re dreaming of.

We think we’ve been clear and compelling in our declarations, and we’ve done our best not to leave any ambiguity as to our hearts or our plans or our intentions.

We think our tirades and our condescension and our insults and our sneering tantrums have spoken eloquently about us and about you.

We hope Lindsey and Donald and Chuck and Orrin and Mitch and Brett and Susan have made a strong case—but if not, let us be more explicit in these moments, so there can be no confusion. After all, November is coming and we want you to be certain…

To the Young Men of America,

You can do whatever you want to young women.

You can disregard their humanity,
force yourself on them physically,
ignore their pleas to stop,
proceed without consent,
hurt them,
humiliate them,
indulge your urges,
treat them as property,
and silence, slander, and intimidate them after the fact.

You can do this as often as you like, to as many young girls as opportunity and your desires allow.

We will have your back (providing you are white, wealthy, and one day vote Republican.)

We will marshal our every resource of finance and position and privilege in protecting and defending you.

You will receive sanctuary in our midst, regardless of the horrors you are responsible for or the recklessness and brazenness of your conduct.

We will help you in any way we can, to malign your accuser’s character, destroy their credibility, and embarrass them further.

We will blame alcohol or her memory or her behavior in the past.
We will talk about your viciousness in ways designed to make it seem commonplace.
We will paint you in as flattering a portrait as we can, so that you actually come out looking like the victim, so that the accusations are actually a help.
We will have no loyalty to the truth or to goodness or decency, if such things pose a threat to either your narrative or our prosperity.
We’ll use the invaluable resource of the Evangelical Church to even make supporting you, part of God’s will.

If no other option is available, we will simply ignore what you’ve done.(After all we installed a President that way.)

We will never allow the violence you make young women endure, to prevent you from having opportunity and advancement and success.

We can promise you that.

And to Young Women of America,

You don’t matter.

Not your trauma or your pain,
not the innocence you lose,
not the damage you sustain,
not the scars you are marked by,
not the nightmares you are haunted by,
not the peace you no longer find,
not the confidence that leaves you,
not the fear that is ever present,
not the shame that you cannot shake,
not the silence you are imprisoned by.

We simply do not see you as valuable—at least not as valuable as the status quo we’re protecting or the legislation we’re coveting or the religion we’re perpetuating or the votes we’re needing.

You are the acceptable collateral damage of our misogyny and entitlement.


Your body, your emotional health, and your sense of safety—simply aren’t worth more than a Supreme Court seat.

Of course, should a pregnancy somehow be created by your violation, we will vigorously demand that you be forced to carry it, even if it exacerbates your pain and magnifies your despair. After all, we urgently need to perpetuate the appearance that we are pro-life—just not yourlife.

We can imagine this is less than ideal for you, but we hope you understand that this is how it has always been, and we are counting on you to indulge us one last time, and we appreciate your cooperation.

After all, ee have a Patriarchy and a predatory President to protect.

So, young men and women of America, we hope you see us with clarity.
We hope that in these days, we are exposing ourselves fully.
We hope you know who we are now.

We’ll see you in November.

Sincerely,

The Republican Party of 2018
 
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The part I read is typical mentally ill white men gone crazy shit. It’s so tiresome. Please gtfo and go live in the minority or female country of your dreams.

A good race crime stat lookup would blow that shit to smitherenes.
 
The more I read the more craptastic it becomes. Been jammin you are a self loathing racist and sexist. It’s psychology 101. You feel so bad about your thoughts you overcompensate with this. Sad.
 
The more I read the more craptastic it becomes. Been jammin you are a self loathing racist and sexist. It’s psychology 101. You feel so bad about your thoughts you overcompensate with this. Sad.

OK, Dr Freud. Thanks for your bang up analysis. (BTW, did you know that analysis contains the word anal)?
 
I got a couple paragraphs in.

Or it has taught people to just bring up memories from 35 years prior, hire lawyers, write your Congress person and trash someone's life because you may not agree with their politics.

After all there hasn't been any evidence to support either side conclusively.
 
No one? You think?
Extreme far wacko leftists, potentially. But no one stable.

BTW Been - do you really believe the far left extremist drivel you copied? I’m asking for improved efficiency for me on this board. If you copied because you wanted to show other’s opinions, then that’s great. However, If you believe then I now know best to just ignore future Been posts.
 
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Extreme far wacko leftists, potentially. But no one stable.

BTW Been - do you really believe the far left extremist drivel you copied? I’m asking for improved efficiency for me on this board. If you copied because you wanted to show other’s opinions, then that’s great. However, If you believe then I now know best to just ignore future Been posts.

Consider it a litmus test. Mostly curious as to who would respond and what they would say.

Dan posts Essays on almost a daily basis, and NZ posts his crap with regularity. I was curious as to what kind of response something from the far left would generate.

Do you take the time to read their diatribes?
 
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Consider it a litmus test. Mostly curious as to who would respond and what they would say.

Dan posts Essays on almost a daily basis, and NZ posts his crap with regularity. I was curious as to what kind of response something from the far left would generate.
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So, how do you decide the he said/she said if there is no evidence no witnesses. Not trying to argue just curious.

Our country has typically required the prosecution to prove guilt not the defense to prove innocence. We still too often don't get that right. What is the solution?
 
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So, how do you decide the he said/she said if there is no evidence no witnesses. Not trying to argue just curious.

Our country has typically required the prosecution to prove guilt not the defense to prove innocence. We still too often don't get that right. What is the solution?


You aren’t getting it. Men are under attack. By liberal women and self loathing male pansies. That group was going to believe anything.
 
So, how do you decide the he said/she said if there is no evidence no witnesses. Not trying to argue just curious.

Our country has typically required the prosecution to prove guilt not the defense to prove innocence. We still too often don't get that right. What is the solution?

It is not a trial. The goal is to determine if he is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of his life.

He has been portrayed as a party animal who often drank so much that he did inappropriate things, blacked out and threw up. He denied that type of behavior under oath. I would think that it should be relatively easy to determine whether he was being honest or lying. Just a matter of interviewing his HS and college peers.
 
It is not a trial. The goal is to determine if he is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of his life.

He has been portrayed as a party animal who often drank so much that he did inappropriate things, blacked out and threw up. He denied that type of behavior under oath. I would think that it should be relatively easy to determine whether he was being honest or lying. Just a matter of interviewing his HS and college peers.
That's outside the scope of the 'investigation'.
 
That's outside the scope of the 'investigation'.

I don't think so. They are going to investigate Ford's claims, as well as Ramirez and the other lady. In order to do that, they will have to ask questions of his HS and College friends and then reveal their findings to the Senate. If they find that he was frequently blackout/vomit drunk, it is going to lend credence to the claims of his accusers.
 
I don't think so. They are going to investigate Ford's claims, as well as Ramirez and the other lady. In order to do that, they will have to ask questions of his HS and College friends and then reveal their findings to the Senate. If they find that he was frequently blackout/vomit drunk, it is going to lend credence to the claims of his accusers.
Nope. They'll be limited in scope to those 3 specific claims and nothing outside of those. A pattern of behavior doesn't prove or disprove a specific event and would be outside the scope.
 
Nope. They'll be limited in scope to those 3 specific claims and nothing outside of those. A pattern of behavior doesn't prove or disprove a specific event and would be outside the scope.

Sure. And in all 3 cases, BK was accused of being extremely intoxicated. In order to investigate those claims, they will have to find out who was (supposedly) present and whether they remember if he was wasted or not, and whether it would surprise them if he was.

You don't think they are going to ask Mark Judge if it is possible that he and BK were extremely drunk and in a house with 4 other teens that summer?
 
It is not a trial. The goal is to determine if he is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land for the rest of his life.

He has been portrayed as a party animal who often drank so much that he did inappropriate things, blacked out and threw up. He denied that type of behavior under oath. I would think that it should be relatively easy to determine whether he was being honest or lying. Just a matter of interviewing his HS and college peers.
To be perfectly honest, I wouldn’t vote for him without more investigation, if for no other reason to silence some critics.
You still didn’t answere what we do about the he said she said. All men are not guilty and some women aren’t victims. I have sons and daughters neither group should be treated the way these two people have been.
 
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