America-And Judaism

[Been Jammin]

I thought this was an interesting article that some of you might find interesting/educational. It is an opinion piece, and not a long read, but it sheds some light on why the Pittsburgh shooter did what he did.

Before I link it, I want to share a few thoughts.

I am proud to be Jewish. Always have been. There are many reasons for this. I do not believe in proselytizing. Actually, I abhor it. That is not the intent of this post. However, this morning, it occurred to me that there may be some posters who have limited knowledge of Judaism and who have had limited contacts with Jewish people during their lives. I grew up in OKC and now live in Dallas, so I have always lived in places where I was able to interact with plenty of other Jews. Except during my 8 years in Stillwater. I knew of less than a handful of other Jews, in/around campus, at any given time.

With people like NZ sharing antisemitic posts on this forum, and with some of you likely residing in small towns, I figure there is no harm in me sharing this one link, that may be informative. There is one sentence in the article, that I think epitomizes what has always made me most proud of my religion....“We decided to help, not because they are Jewish, but because we are Jewish.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/opinion/hias-tree-of-life-pittsburgh-refugees.html

 

[my_2cents]

@Been Jammin, just wondering, have you ever personally experienced any anti-semitism directed at you or your family?

 

[Been Jammin]

@Been Jammin, just wondering, have you ever personally experienced any anti-semitism directed at you or your family?

Yes. Nothing outrageous, and nothing in the last 3 decades (that I can remember). But, I did experience some incidents as a child and while in HS. I mostly kept my beliefs to myself while in college/vet school.

 

[Ostatedchi]

 

[Been Jammin]

WTF?

 

[Ostatedchi]

WTF?

Have you never seen the movie 'School Ties' about a Jewish kid being outed at a boarding school?

 

[driad]

I have truly never understood why most jews are liberal. I would think it would be the opposite.

 

[squeak]

I have truly never understood why most jews are liberal. I would think it would be the opposite.

Racist

 

[squeak]

I thought this was an interesting article that some of you might find interesting/educational. It is an opinion piece, and not a long read, but it sheds some light on why the Pittsburgh shooter did what he did.

Before I link it, I want to share a few thoughts.

I am proud to be Jewish. Always have been. There are many reasons for this. I do not believe in proselytizing. Actually, I abhor it. That is not the intent of this post. However, this morning, it occurred to me that there may be some posters who have limited knowledge of Judaism and who have had limited contacts with Jewish people during their lives. I grew up in OKC and now live in Dallas, so I have always lived in places where I was able to interact with plenty of other Jews. Except during my 8 years in Stillwater. I knew of less than a handful of other Jews, in/around campus, at any given time.

With people like NZ sharing antisemitic posts on this forum, and with some of you likely residing in small towns, I figure there is no harm in me sharing this one link, that may be informative. There is one sentence in the article, that I think epitomizes what has always made me most proud of my religion....“We decided to help, not because they are Jewish, but because we are Jewish.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/opinion/hias-tree-of-life-pittsburgh-refugees.html

Jesus was a Jew and a pretty solid dude.

I’m also proud to be a small-town white boy, but only if it doesn’t offend anyone.

 

[Been Jammin]

Have you never seen the movie 'School Ties' about a Jewish kid being outed at a boarding school?

No. Might have to check it out. Sounds interesting.

 

[Been Jammin]

I have truly never understood why most jews are liberal. I would think it would be the opposite.

Why do you say that? Serious question. I might have an explanation.

 

[Been Jammin]

Jesus was a Jew and a pretty solid dude.

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I agree on both counts.

 

[Ostatedchi]

No. Might have to check it out. Sounds interesting.

Solid movie.

 

[AC_Exotic]

No. Might have to check it out. Sounds interesting.

Good flick.

 

[Onepokeovertheline]

Why do you say that? Serious question. I might have an explanation.

I’d be interested in your take. Most the older Jewish folks I know are very conservative and most their kids are leftists.

The dem party does not support Israel. I don’t get voting for a party that would side with a terrorist before they’d side with the nation of Israel.

 

[Medic007]

The dem party does not support Israel. I don’t get voting for a party that would side with a terrorist before they’d side with the nation of Israel.

They already sided with a terrorist state. There's a reason that Israel didn't support Obama's Iran giveaway. They will be living within range of the missiles.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

No. Might have to check it out. Sounds interesting.

Good movie

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

I have truly never understood why most jews are liberal. I would think it would be the opposite.

You ask ten Jews their opinion on a topic and you’ll get ten different opinions. I agree that Jews tend to be more on the socially liberal side, other than the Hasidic and Orthodox sects.

1/64th Jew here checking in (by Elizabeth Warren’s standard that makes me a full-fledged Jew). Mazel tov!

 

[AC_Exotic]

My Jewish side of the family leans heavily to the left.

We never discuss politics.

 

[squeak]

I have truly never understood why most jews are liberal. I would think it would be the opposite.

I have never understood why anyone is liberal.

 

[driad]

I have never understood why anyone is liberal.

Good point.

 

[Been Jammin]

I’d be interested in your take. Most the older Jewish folks I know are very conservative and most their kids are leftists.

The dem party does not support Israel. I don’t get voting for a party that would side with a terrorist before they’d side with the nation of Israel.

The Dem party was very supportive of Israel prior to Obama. That one is still a head scratcher. Why any POTUS would not strongly support Israel, I will never understand. They are the strongest military power in the region, and the least likely to shelter terrorist organizations.

As far as conservative v liberal Jews...

I think two generalizations play a big part in the formula (but there are other factors).
-people tend to become more conservative as they get older. As you said, a lot of older Jews lean right while their children lean left.
-If you look at the political map, most large cities tend to be majority Democrat. In Texas, a very red state, the urban areas always vote blue. You won’t find many Jews in rural areas. Almost all of them will want to be in an urban or suburban location where they can interact with other Jews.

 

[Rdcldad]

The Dem party was very supportive of Israel prior to Obama. That one is still a head scratcher.

No been it’s really not

Your ability to see otard and his ilk for what they are is

 

[imprimis]

The only people Obama supported in the Middle East were fellow Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, PLO and Iranian proponents.

By definition that leaves out any Jewish advocates.

 

[Rdcldad]

The only people Obama supported in the Middle East were fellow Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, PLO and Iranian proponents.

By definition that leaves out any Jewish advocates.

wholesale destabilization

and most despicable
Libyan rock throwers who barbecued Americans