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Alan Dershowitz

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One of the few rational lefties.

Says even if Trump colluded with the Russians or gave classified information to Russian ambassador, he has not committed any crimes.

Total MSM / Democrat attempt to take down a legitimately elected President they hate for crushing their girl Hillary.
 
One of the few rational lefties.

Says even if Trump colluded with the Russians or gave classified information to Russian ambassador, he has not committed any crimes.

Total MSM / Democrat attempt to take down a legitimately elected President they hate for crushing their girl Hillary.

ADHD Trump went from "I'll put you in prison, Hillary" to "She's a good person". I wonder if this sort of thing will renew their interest in pursuing a case in which there are actual known felonies that were committed.
 
The left, including some who frequent this board, seem to be fine with the preponderance of actual evidence of corruption on the part of HRC vis-a-vis the Clinton Foundation, fine with Podesta receiving tens of millions in Russian money, and fine with HRC selling American uranium to Putin. For these same people to charge President Trump with some kind of Russian connection and provide absolutely zero evidence to back it up, one has to conclude their Trump obsession boils down to one thing and one thing only...

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The left, including some who frequent this board, seem to be fine with the preponderance of actual evidence of corruption on the part of HRC vis-a-vis the Clinton Foundation, fine with Podesta receiving tens of millions in Russian money, and fine with HRC selling American uranium to Putin. For these same people to charge President Trump with some kind of Russian connection and provide absolutely zero evidence to back it up, one has to conclude their Trump obsession boils down to one thing and one thing only...

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This must be addressed.

Any snarky comments @wino?
 
The left, including some who frequent this board, seem to be fine with the preponderance of actual evidence of corruption on the part of HRC vis-a-vis the Clinton Foundation, fine with Podesta receiving tens of millions in Russian money, and fine with HRC selling American uranium to Putin. For these same people to charge President Trump with some kind of Russian connection and provide absolutely zero evidence to back it up, one has to conclude their Trump obsession boils down to one thing and one thing only...

@AC2017 Since this "must" be addressed, I will give it a go.

I can only speak for myself, but I am all in favor of an investigation into the Clinton Foundation. If they were trading political favors, in order to get rich, that is not OK, and should be investigated. Does that mean the Clintons should go to jail? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know enough about the law, or what they actually did to have an opinion.

As far as Podesta goes, I don't know a lot about him or what he has done. I wasn't following politics closely prior the 2016 election. I do think he is a slimeball politician, who likely did things he should not have. But, there are a lot of those individuals in this country. As far as him receiving Russian money, I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. I would have to do some research to form one, and am not inclined to spend that time at this point. He is yesterday's news. If an investigation into his activities opens up, then I will jump in. Otherwise, it is a waste of my time, and I will assume that he is either a slimeball who got away with things, or a guy who wasn't as bad as the Anti-Clintons are making him out to be.

As to Clinton selling Uranium to Putin. I think that is not an accurate portrayal of what actually happened. Not that she wasn't involved in those deals. Just that her involvement is being vastly overstated. It is pretty clear that Putin hates her, which doesn't jibe with the two of them being the two key players in that deal. The explanations I have read, of the details of those deals make it pretty clear that it is not what some conservative publications are making it out to be.

As to the last point. I have clearly stated, many times, that I would not be surprised if Trump is squeaky clean when it comes to "some Russian connection". But, that doesn't mean that key figures, in his campaign, can say the same thing. I think @GunsOfFrankEaton sees this investigation as clearly being focused on DJT and an attempt to impeach/convict him. I don't see it as that at all. I see an investigation focused on multiple individuals, connected to Trump, and on Russian involvement in our election. It may eventually lead to DJT, but I don't think we should be pointing the finger at him just yet. There are some red flags with some of the other parties....enough to warrant an investigation, but I think it is premature to accuse POTUS of being part of the (possible) plot and guilty of wrongdoing.

To sum up. This investigation is its own animal. An investigation into the Clinton Foundation would be a different animal. Same with Podesta and Uranium. I am not advocating for those issues to be ignored. I'm just not focused on them at this moment.
 
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This must be addressed.

Any snarky comments @wino?

I haven't taken time to look into it, but it looks like another farce. There's a long history of this.

1. Benghazi. Republicans had how many investigations into it? HRC raised her hands to the heavens and answered every question the conspiracy peddlers threw at her and she embarrassed them.

2. Birth Certificate. Remember that hysteria? It was pretty hot on here. After Biff promised bombshell reservations the next Monday, Obama rolled it out, sawed off the limb behind the right wing conspiracy theorists and you just never heard much about it any more. Strike 2.

3. Uranium. Righties are flat lying -- we didn't sell the uranium to russia, pure and simple. Posters have accurately corrected this many times over. Strike 3.

4. Clinton Foundation. Too bad we haven't had any republicans to investigate this. They've had both chambers of Congress for how many years now? If there was something illegal, what does it take to graduate beyond bullshit conspiracy allegations and smoke? At this point it smacks of keeping allegations alive just to have something to complain about. It's been years now, republicans have been in charge of both chambers of congress and nada.

You seem like a relatively objective guy. Why do you still believe this stuff? It's been years. If there's something illegal, why haven't republicans done something about it? They would throw her in jail if they could. This screams of another right wing farce.
 
@AC2017 Since this "must" be addressed, I will give it a go.

I can only speak for myself, but I am all in favor of an investigation into the Clinton Foundation. If they were trading political favors, in order to get rich, that is not OK, and should be investigated. Does that mean the Clintons should go to jail? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know enough about the law, or what they actually did to have an opinion.

As far as Podesta goes, I don't know a lot about him or what he has done. I wasn't following politics closely prior the 2016 election. I do think he is a slimeball politician, who likely did things he should not have. But, there are a lot of those individuals in this country. As far as him receiving Russian money, I don't know enough about it to have an opinion. I would have to do some research to form one, and am not inclined to spend that time at this point. He is yesterday's news. If an investigation into his activities opens up, then I will jump in. Otherwise, it is a waste of my time, and I will assume that he is either a slimeball who got away with things, or a guy who wasn't as bad as the Anti-Clintons are making him out to be.

As to Clinton selling Uranium to Putin. I think that is not an accurate portrayal of what actually happened. Not that she wasn't involved in those deals. Just that her involvement is being vastly overstated. It is pretty clear that Putin hates her, which doesn't jibe with the two of them being the two key players in that deal. The explanations I have read, of the details of those deals make it pretty clear that it is not what some conservative publications are making it out to be.

As to the last point. I have clearly stated, many times, that I would not be surprised if Trump is squeaky clean when it comes to "some Russian connection". But, that doesn't mean that key figures, in his campaign, can say the same thing. I think @GunsOfFrankEaton sees this investigation as clearly being focused on DJT and an attempt to impeach/convict him. I don't see it as that at all. I see an investigation focused on multiple individuals, connected to Trump, and on Russian involvement in our election. It may eventually lead to DJT, but I don't think we should be pointing the finger at him just yet. There are some red flags with some of the other parties....enough to warrant an investigation, but I think it is premature to accuse POTUS of being part of the (possible) plot and guilty of wrongdoing.

To sum up. This investigation is its own animal. An investigation into the Clinton Foundation would be a different animal. Same with Podesta and Uranium. I am not advocating for those issues to be ignored. I'm just not focused on them at this moment.


good lord been

those issues are not part of your fiber or life view so you can advocate for those issues to be ignored, forego a congruent narrative and write your own history

then there's voicemails emails recorders and 35$ million in stock to deal with
 
The left, including some who frequent this board, seem to be fine with the preponderance of actual evidence of corruption on the part of HRC vis-a-vis the Clinton Foundation, fine with Podesta receiving tens of millions in Russian money, and fine with HRC selling American uranium to Putin. For these same people to charge President Trump with some kind of Russian connection and provide absolutely zero evidence to back it up, one has to conclude their Trump obsession boils down to one thing and one thing only...

93359935-56a059893df78cafdaa126c2.jpg
Don't forget about Clinton paying off North Korea so they would play nice and not develop nuclear weapons.
 
i did when responding to your original post

No, you really didn't. I never said I thought those issues should be ignored. Quite the opposite in fact.

I said that if there is something there, an investigation is warranted. If the investigation turns up wrongdoing, then appropriate punishment should be meted out.
 
No, you really didn't. I never said I thought those issues should be ignored. Quite the opposite in fact.

I said that if there is something there, an investigation is warranted. If the investigation turns up wrongdoing, then appropriate punishment should be meted out.

yea i really did

you treat the dog for parvo cause you are 100% sure it's got parvo and that's fantastic

but admittedly you haven't followed politics before 2016

so you are open to the fact that the dog was born in a filthy puppy mill with scumbag owners but you are a vet

not animal control or the spca or even effin oprah

so treat the parvo been
 
yea i really did

you treat the dog for parvo cause you are 100% sure it's got parvo and that's fantastic

but admittedly you haven't followed politics before 2016

so you are open to the fact that the dog was born in a filthy puppy mill with scumbag owners but you are a vet

not animal control or the spca or even effin oprah

so treat the parvo been
Wait, what?

I am sure this made perfect sense to you as you typed it. But to those of us not living in your noggin can you maybe try again?
 
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I haven't taken time to look into it, but it looks like another farce. There's a long history of this.

1. Benghazi. Republicans had how many investigations into it? HRC raised her hands to the heavens and answered every question the conspiracy peddlers threw at her and she embarrassed them.

2. Birth Certificate. Remember that hysteria? It was pretty hot on here. After Biff promised bombshell reservations the next Monday, Obama rolled it out, sawed off the limb behind the right wing conspiracy theorists and you just never heard much about it any more. Strike 2.

3. Uranium. Righties are flat lying -- we didn't sell the uranium to russia, pure and simple. Posters have accurately corrected this many times over. Strike 3.

4. Clinton Foundation. Too bad we haven't had any republicans to investigate this. They've had both chambers of Congress for how many years now? If there was something illegal, what does it take to graduate beyond bullshit conspiracy allegations and smoke? At this point it smacks of keeping allegations alive just to have something to complain about. It's been years now, republicans have been in charge of both chambers of congress and nada.

You seem like a relatively objective guy. Why do you still believe this stuff? It's been years. If there's something illegal, why haven't republicans done something about it? They would throw her in jail if they could. This screams of another right wing farce.

Hillary is a dirty criminal and you know it. (Her husband too.)

They and the DNC did one of the all time great screw jobs on Bernie Sanders (who is a decent dude imo, even if I don't always agree with him) and there's plenty of evidence that supports that claim.

I would be furious at that level of tampering.
 
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Wait, what?

I am sure this made perfect sense to you as you typed it. But to those of us not living in your noggin can you maybe try again?


i appreciate the manner in which you asked for clarification i went for a nice long jog in part thinking about why beens position
pisses me off so

alpha pretty much nailed it in the seth rich thread

been hasn't given two patooties about politics til 2016

trump comes along polarizes the country
trump gets elected
trump now subject to special prosecutor and russian connection

ok fine squeeze the juice
waterboard the mfer to get answers
it's all good

the cost is time and ability to govern as elected

been is the endgame of this investigation
the moth in the light as you put it the rubbernecker checking out the flashing lights

please don't tie this to your whataboutism but there was no interest in anything going on in DC the last eight years. no concern for the manner in which the country was governed

we know the scandals we know the winks at the constitution and rule of law

but trump grabs a little pussy ruffles a few feathers beats hillarys, these other pussified republicans and the msm's asses and here we go

the magic russian boogeyman
allan effin dershowitz has been quoted as to "what laws have been broken?"

alpha makes another excellent point
when this investigation has concluded
D.C. will have a post coup uncomfortable silence

those pics with the russian ambassador couldn't have been a bigger FU to everyone coming at trump

when you go for trumps throats he doesn't have to play nice anymore

good luck america
 
You should have a Snickers Bar.


you're a moth been

who now fancies yourself
in the fight fight for truth justice and the american way

and as if on cue the aspca commercial with the puppy mill shaking chihuahua and whining lesbian pain music comes on
 
every law school student who finds themselves tempted by greed or lacking in fortitude to do what's right while navigating the political waters should keep this interview on file.

the aclu is the worst when it comes to the concept of civil libertarianism
"I'm here to defend civil liberties. That's more important than politics." Would that more people do the same.
 
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