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A Question For My More Enlightened Friends

Ponca Dan

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I confess I don’t keep up with the latest dietary recommendations. I have always thought milk was good for you. Has that been disproven? If not, where will we get all our milk if we slaughter all the cows? Or cheese? Or yogurt? Ice cream? Kefir? Cream? Sour cream? Butter?

Also, if we kill all the cows won’t that make them extinct? Will PETA be OK with that? Or ASPCA?

With the cows extinct will that mean no more leather shoes? Coats? Furniture?

Is part of the estimated $93 trillion dollars the Green New Deal will cost the taxpayer being set aside to give to all the dairy farms and cattle ranches that will lose their means of survival? Not to mention shoe manufacturers, coat companies, etc.

Have the proponents of the Green New Deal thought all this through?
 
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Oh dear, Pop pops opened the wrong bottle again.

You sure did, but thanks for playing:


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Here’s another thought. I looked it up and apparently at one time there were over 60 million buffalo roaming across the western US, before white men reduced their numbers to near zero. Those white men today are reviled for what they did. Shouldn’t we actually be thanking them for helping to protect the earth? Surely buffalo have at least as much flatulence as cattle. Since they are bigger I would think the flatulence per animal might be greater. To my more enlightened friends: should we consider the near extermination of the buffalo population an environmentally positive thing? Should today’s Green New Dealers be holding the buffalo hunters up as historically heroic men who saved the planet from sure fire environmental destruction?
 
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I confess I don’t keep up with the latest dietary recommendations. I have always thought milk was good for you. Has that been disproven? If not, where will we get all our milk if we slaughter all the cows? Or cheese? Or yogurt? Ice cream? Kefir? Cream? Sour cream? Butter?

Also, if we kill all the cows won’t that make them extinct? Will PETA be OK with that? Or ASPCA?

With the cows extinct will that mean no more leather shoes? Coats? Furniture?

Is part of the estimated $93 trillion dollars the Green New Deal will cost the taxpayer being set aside to give to all the dairy farms and cattle ranches that will lose their means of survival? Not to mention shoe manufacturers, coat companies, etc.

Have the proponents of the Green New Deal thought all this through?

@Ponca Dan I'm going to field some of these questions, though I respectfully decline to megaprocess these issues.

I confess I don’t keep up with the latest dietary recommendations. I have always thought milk was good for you. Has that been disproven?

Well, here we go... Yes and no. Cultures that don't do dairy don't have the cancer issues we do, there are apparently dairy sugars that aren't great for us. But you also have some dairy as great protein and fat delivery. Then you have all the fermented dairy products that are supposed to be great for our but bacteria, which is supposedly everything now, if you believe the cutting edge science. On a personal level, dairy is really fattening. I say we should moderately consume dairy products. I could be talked out of that though.

If not, where will we get all our milk if we slaughter all the cows? Or cheese? Or yogurt? Ice cream? Kefir? Cream? Sour cream? Butter?

Well, if we slaughter all the cattle we'll have to rely on substitute milk products from other animals or plants, or do without. Goat cheese is already a thing, so...

Also, if we kill all the cows won’t that make them extinct?

Yes, if we kill all of the cows then cows would be extinct.

Will PETA be OK with that? Or ASPCA?

I'm not sure, but I suspect they would say that wiping out a species isn't the logical extension of being against large scale slaughter of animals.

With the cows extinct will that mean no more leather shoes? Coats? Furniture?

I think that depends on how you define "leather." If you describe "leather" as the skin from cows, then yes. At least until there's some viable alternative method of making and tanning animal skin.

Is part of the estimated $93 trillion dollars the Green New Deal will cost the taxpayer being set aside to give to all the dairy farms and cattle ranches that will lose their means of survival? Not to mention shoe manufacturers, coat companies, etc.

I do not think so.

Have the proponents of the Green New Deal thought all this through?

I can almost assure you that they did not sit down and carefully consider whether killing all cows would make them extinct.
 
To my more enlightened friends: should we consider the near extermination of the buffalo population an environmentally positive thing?

Oh, we don't have to worry about a herd of buffalo stampeding through our bedroom, but if we did have to worry about that, I'm not sure we'd have all the public roads and utilities and cars running gasoline, either, which produces more carbon than the buffalo herds.

Should today’s Green New Dealers be holding the buffalo hunters up as historically heroic men who saved the planet from sure fire environmental destruction?

Well I'll bet they've never considered that perspective, Dan.
 
Should today’s Green New Dealers be holding the buffalo hunters up as historically heroic men who saved the planet from sure fire environmental destruction?
Perhaps, but being white men, in terms of being Nazis, white supremacists and privileged, overrides any benefit they performed for reducing carbon in the atmosphere. Being the Devil's spawn automatically disqualifies them.
 
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