A Question For My Authoritarian Friends On The Left

[Ponca Dan]

It has become popular among those on the left to advocate for greater government intrusion into the lives of its citizens. I’m sure they view this intrusion as benevolent and necessary for the well being and prosperity of the country (in spite of all historical evidence to the contrary). We are witnessing calls for “free healthcare, free college education and jobs for all” among many other demands. We all know, of course, that none of their desires are free. They all come with huge costs which must be borne by the very people who will be the recipients of the free largesse. In other words brace yourselves for massive tax increases. And such increases can not be levied against only the rich. It will by necessity have to trickle down to the rest of us. I was looking at this chart which shows the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay almost nothing in taxes. To pay for the “free” services the bottom 50% will almost certainly have to pony up.

Questions for those of you that call for such authoritarianism: 1) How big a burden do you think the lower income brackets should have to carry? 2) What should happen to those that refuse to carry the burden you want to place on them? 3). How do you respond when they insist you promised them this was all going to be free?


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[GunsOfFrankEaton]

 

[Medic007]

It has become popular among those on the left to advocate for greater government intrusion into the lives of its citizens. I’m sure they view this intrusion as benevolent and necessary for the well being and prosperity of the country (in spite of all historical evidence to the contrary). We are witnessing calls for “free healthcare, free college education and jobs for all” among many other demands. We all know, of course, that none of their desires are free. They all come with huge costs which must be borne by the very people who will be the recipients of the free largesse. In other words brace yourselves for massive tax increases. And such increases can not be levied against only the rich. It will by necessity have to trickle down to the rest of us. I was looking at this chart which shows the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay almost nothing in taxes. To pay for the “free” services the bottom 50% will almost certainly have to pony up.

Questions for those of you that call for such authoritarianism: 1) How big a burden do you think the lower income brackets should have to carry? 2) What should happen to those that refuse to carry the burden you want to place on them? 3). How do you respond when they insist you promised them this was all going to be free?


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Maybe we should look at all of the other successful socialist governments to help us answer those questions.

Chuckle.

 

[Syskatine]

Fresh take, Dan. Never seen this topic explored on here before unless you count the twice a day posts for the last 10 years. I'll play.

I'm setting up a conference call with libertarian countries to get on the phone with Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, and Sweden so the libertarians can tell them everything these progressive, prosperous countries are doing wrong.

Dan, can you get Somalia on the line, along with any other libertarian paradises without much functioning government? Oughta be an interesting call.

 

[CSCOTTOSUPOKES]

Dan believes people can govern themselves and coexist without hatred or venom or taking advantage of one another. He believes the term for this is libertarian anarchism.

He is a utopian dreamer.

 

[Syskatine]

Dan believes people can govern themselves and coexist without hatred or venom or taking advantage of one another. He believes the term for this is libertarian anarchism.

He is a utopian dreamer.

Fill in the blank with "Libertarian" or "communist":

Oh, _________________ is great in its truest form. Yeah, yeah, I know they take e1's shit and kill everybody when that system of government is utilized, but that's because of PEOPLE, and not the _____________________ system of government. Nobody has really vindicated its utopian ideals yet.

Thank you, I'll take our capitalistic, socialist, republic over all the libertarian shitholes.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Fill in the blank with "Libertarian" or "communist":

Oh, _________________ is great in its truest form. Yeah, yeah, I know they take e1's shit and kill everybody when that system of government is utilized, but that's because of PEOPLE, and not the _____________________ system of government. Nobody has really vindicated its utopian ideals yet.

Thank you, I'll take our capitalistic, socialist, republic over all the libertarian shitholes.

You and CSCOTT have a nice little conversation going, a conversation that signifies nothing and is completely contrary to reality. But that's OK, you are welcome to your fantasies. What I can't help but notice is that neither of you attempted to answer the questions.

 

[Syskatine]

What I can't help but notice is that neither of you attempted to answer the questions.

Once bitten, twice shy Dan! We can pretty much script the conversation with you. What I cant' help but notice is you haven't volunteered any of the libertarian countries that are getting it done... for like, 5 years now!

 

[Ponca Dan]

Once bitten, twice shy Dan! We can pretty much script the conversation with you. What I cant' help but notice is you haven't volunteered any of the libertarian countries that are getting it done... for like, 5 years now!

That's interesting. Since I have no idea how you would answer the questions I am unable to script the conversation. Would you care to supply such a script? You know, you could answer the questions and then supply my responses you know in advance I will offer.