A Heartfelt Plea For Progressives

[Medic007]

I read it. And after reading it I would say that knowing that you accept it as unvarnished objective reporting, and knowing that is the only type of rhetoric or opinion you embrace as reality it becomes abundantly clear why you post on this board with such unyielding stubbornness. You exhibit one trait that has routinely baffled me, this notion that any opinion that does not comport with rabid progressive thinking can mean only one thing, it comes from the hated right wing. And the right wing can never be correct about anything. It is clear that articles like this have thoroughly infected you with this attitude.

I’ll give one example of the muddy thinking this author utilizes. By not defining what conservative thought represents he gets to label anyone with whom he disagrees as a conservative. He calls Donald Trump a conservative, which is utterly laughable. Trump is a mercantilist and a nationalist, sort of a soft-core fascist. Soft core. Most decidedly not a 1930’s style authoritarian. And definitely not conservative!

But you apparently eat that stuff up, let it absorb into your pores. This article, this criticism could have been so good, but there’s not an ounce of objectivity in it. Every word, the whole language used is devised to create intolerance and deflect anyone from believing there could ever be a disagreement that would be based on logical, individualist thought.

I thank you for posting this. I have never before had such a clear understanding of why you behave the way you do.

Standing ovation, Ponca Dan.

 

[my_2cents]

I read it. And after reading it I would say that knowing that you accept it as unvarnished objective reporting, and knowing that is the only type of rhetoric or opinion you embrace as reality it becomes abundantly clear why you post on this board with such unyielding stubbornness. You exhibit one trait that has routinely baffled me, this notion that any opinion that does not comport with rabid progressive thinking can mean only one thing, it comes from the hated right wing. And the right wing can never be correct about anything. It is clear that articles like this have thoroughly infected you with this attitude.

First paragraph doesn't address the article. Just an attack on me. I thought you said you wouldn't do that? You would just address the article . . . what happened?

He calls Donald Trump a conservative, which is utterly laughable. Trump is a mercantilist and a nationalist, sort of a soft-core fascist.

Wow. So now you agree with me that Trump is a fascist?

Talk about changing your tune quickly. I'm going to enjoy watching you walk back that comment.

btw, a fascist can be a conservative. And in the case of Trump, that is the case. The author is not wrong.

And really, that's it? That is all you got in response to the article? You didn't address any of the main points the author made. Didn't address any of the history he discussed. Etc. You focused in on Trump and that was it. 95% of your response post was about me, not the article. 🤣🤣

but there’s not an ounce of objectivity in it.

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But the articles you post attacking progressives have objectivity in them? You are a piece of work Dan.🤣🤣

As usual, you show your true colors. I know why you don't read anything that challenges your political ideology. You can't think outside of your box. That is why you didn't know what a demcoratic socialism was but you sure knew you should be attacking it.

A free thinker you definitely are not. You are the quintessential close-minded American right-winger.

 

[Ponca Dan]

First paragraph doesn't address the article. Just an attack on me. I thought you said you wouldn't do that? You would just address the article . . . what happened?


Wow. So now you agree with me that Trump is a fascist?

Talk about changing your tune quickly. I'm going to enjoy watching you walk back that comment.

btw, a fascist can be a conservative. And in the case of Trump, that is the case. The author is not wrong.

And really, that's it? That is all you got in response to the article? You didn't address any of the main points the author made. You focused in on Trump and that was it. 95% of your response post was about me, not the article. 🤣🤣


🤣🤣

But the articles you post attacking progressives have objectivity in them? You are a piece of work Dan.🤣🤣

As usual, you show your true colors. I know why you don't read anything that challenges your political ideology. You can't think outside of your box. A free thinker you definitely are not.

The first and last paragraphs were intended to explain that for the first time I have a clear understanding of why you think the way you think and write the way you write. It was not meant to be an attack on you, and I apologize if it hurt your feelings.

I have called Donald Trump a mercantilist and a nationalist, a soft core fascist practically from the day he assumed office, and the Trump faithful hated me for it. I gather from your comments you really have no understanding of what conservatism or fascism are, but for the record they are about as far apart as conservatism and socialism. Fascism and socialism lean toward one side of the political spectrum, while conservatism leans the other way. You are sorely mistaken in thinking a conservative can be a fascist. But after reading your link I can understand how you can get these things so confused.

I settled on Trump because the article was too full of half truths on too many subjects, all of which would require a dissertation of historical significance to argue about. Like I said, by not defining his terms he gets to denigrate his oppositions’ motives without explanation other than evil intent. It’s an article full of Strawman accusations.

You seem to think I try to hide my “true colors.” That’s something I’ve never attempted to do. But I get it: you are simply incapable of seeing it any other way. I’m an anarcho-libertarian, strongly influenced by the writings of Bastiat, Albert J. Nock, and mostly by Murray Rothbard. But for legal and moral purposes all opinions I express on this board are my own.

 

[Alpha Woke]

What thread?

There are stupid questions.

Don't let anyone tell you differently.

Just telll me where I can get the real “non propaganda” progressive news and information.

 

[2012Bearcat]

Yes, Democrats were fighting for black community back then. And they still are.


Spoken like a true Republican who opposes civil rights.

If Democrats were truly trying to help the black community, why is the black community raising hell how bad they have it after 60 years and trillions of dollars spent by Democrats helping so much? I know you leftist do not celebrate success but celebrating failure and defeat is insane.

 

[my_2cents]

The first and last paragraphs were intended to explain that for the first time I have a clear understanding of why you think the way you think and write the way you write. It was not meant to be an attack on you, and I apologize if it hurt your feelings.

You didn't hurt my feelings at all. As usual, I got a good chuckle from your post. You did exactly what you claimed you wouldn't do. Like you do so often.

You also failed to address any of the key points of the article. Again, not surprising. I doubt you even read the whole article.

I gather from your comments you really have no understanding of what conservatism or fascism are, but for the record they are about as far apart as conservatism and socialism. Fascism and socialism lean toward one side of the political spectrum, while conservatism leans the other way. You are sorely mistaken in thinking a conservative can be a fascist.

Of course a conservative can be a fascist, and vice versa. The fact that you think otherwise shows once again that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Which isn't shocking since you didn't even know what democratic socialism was earlier.

btw, fascists and socialists are not alike. Fascists hate socialism and socialists hate fascism. Socialists have always been outspoken critics of fascism while conservatives have been all too willing to work with fascists. And before you even bring up the common false American right-wing talking point, Hitler was not a socialist.

It is good to know though that you agree with me that Trump is a fascist. I'll keep that in mind moving forward.

 

[my_2cents]

If Democrats were truly trying to help the black community, why is the black community raising hell how bad they have it after 60 years and trillions of dollars spent by Democrats helping so much?

The black community has come along way over the past sixty years. If you can't acknowledge that, there truly is no hope for you.

And yes, black leaders continue to speak out about the economic and social inequalities that still exist. Because there is work still yet to be done. Republicans though routinely stand in the way of policies that seek to address these inequalities. And this is one reason black Americans vote overwhelming for Democratic candidates.