How can anyone support going soft on crimes like this? Democrats refuse to punish petty criminals and are then surprised the same criminals commit more serious crimes. SMFH

Before I head out for another day of hammering the trout in the Snake River & Dillon Reservoir I found a little ditty that took me back to my love of all things Peter Sellers. If you have not had the pleasure of seeing 'Being There', I urge you to do it soonest. See if you can pick out which character in the movie is now running for president. Since XX & XY no longer matter, you won't struggle to make the comparison.

Enjoy

Happy birthday to former OSU athletic director Mike Holder: A look back at his career​

• Stephen Pingry
• Aug 17, 2024

Happy birthday to former Oklahoma State athletic director and golf coach Mike Holder, who turned 76 years old on Saturday.

He retired in July 2021, handing the reigns to current OSU athletic director Chad Weiberg.

Take a look back at his career:


In 1987, former OSU golf coach Labron Harris (left) and then-OSU golf coach Mike Holder show off the hardware won by the OSU men's golf program. Holder took over the OSU golf program in 1973 and guided it for 32 years.
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Pictured in 1987, Mike Holder coached the Oklahoma State golf program from 1973 through 2005. There were eight national titles, 25 conference titles and 38 first-team All-Americans.
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During his OSU coaching career, Mike Holder (left) won eight national titles and coached marquee players such as Hunter Mahan (right), a current PGA Tour player.
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In 1997, Mike Holder poses for a photo at Southern Hills.
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Oklahoma State's Par Nilsson leans to see his approach shot as golf coach Mike Holder looks on at Karsten Creek in 2001. His final year of coaching golf would be 2005.
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On Sept. 16, 2005, Mike Holder was introduced as Oklahoma State’s new athletic director. “I want to find out how good we can be at Oklahoma State University,“ he said.
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Mike Holder, football coach Mike Gundy and T. Boone Pickens talk during a media event to showcase OSU's new locker rooms and other training facilities on Aug. 17, 2009.
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Mike Holder, T. Boone Pickens and Burns Hargis talk during a press conference in August 2009. Holder says Pickens’ overall donations to the athletic department exceed $300 million.

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Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder, OSU president Burns Hargis his wife, Ann, Gov. Mary Fallin and T. Boone Pickens (sitting a row up) and others stand as family members leave after the memorial service for Kurt Budke, Miranda Serna, Olin and Paula Branstetter on Nov. 21, 2011 at Gallagher-Iba Arena.
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Specific to OSU’s stadium renovation, T. Boone Pickens donated $20 million in 2003 and $63 million in 2008. The project was taken to a much higher level, however, when Mike Holder persuaded Pickens to give $165 million. It was the largest single donation ever made to any American university’s athletic department, and it was announced in January 2006.
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Together for T. Boone Pickens' 90th birthday party were four Oklahoma State leadership figures: from left, football coach Mike Gundy, athletic director Mike Holder, Gundy and university President Burns Hargis.
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Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder (left), stands next to Cowboys strength coach Rob Glass on June 19, 2018.
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OSU AD Mike Holder introduces new men's basketball head coach Mike Boynton at press conference in Stillwater, OK, Mar. 27, 2017.
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OSU basketball player Davon Dillard speaks with Cowboys athletic director Mike Holder on March 27.
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Oklahoma State University head golf coach Mike Holder stands in the Hall of Trophies at Karsten Creek on April 23, 2003.
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Oklahoma State Athletic Director Mike Holder wipes a tear from his eye while Oklahoma State Cowboys head coach Mike Gundy speaks to the crowd during The Celebration of Life of businessman and Oklahoma State Alumni T. Boone Pickens at Gallagher-Iba Arena on Wednesday, Sept. 25, 2019.
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OSU's Lyrik Rawls had his 2023 season snatched away. Expect "tears of joy" in his return to Boone Pickens Stadium​

• Aug 17, 2024 Updated 8 hrs ago

Tyler Waldrep​

OSU Sports Writer

STILLWATER — Some moments stay with you.
Such a moment came for Oklahoma State safety Lyrik Rawls when he got the diagnosis of a partially torn ACL that would end his breakout season after only three games in 2023.
“I wanted to break down right then and there,” Rawls said.

After spending most of his first two years on the sidelines, Rawls finally earned the first three starts of his career. And he was more than making the most of his chance.
Rawls was third on the team with 20 total tackles, including 10 solo stops. Against South Alabama, he led all of the secondary with a Pro Football Focus grade of 73.

Then Rawls, who had never suffered such a serious injury before, was given two choices. Continue playing and put himself at high risk of tearing his ACL all the way, which would lead to season-ending surgery in the best of circumstances. Or he could go ahead and have season-ending surgery.

“Basically, I would still need to get surgery,” Rawls said. “So I felt like the best option for me was to go ahead and get it now and be back for the next season.”



Oklahoma State safety Lyrik Rawls started three games before missing the rest of the season due to a torn ACL.
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Returning to the football field was always the destination, but Rawls’ “tough journey” through rehabilitation forced him to take stock of an even bigger picture.

“This injury really took a toll on me,” Rawls said. “Got me closer to myself, closer to God having to pray more because this has been a tough time. But through the process of it I feel like it made me visualize a lot of things outside of football. Get closer to just the outside world. Not being in the mix anymore, so I feel like I’ve gotten closer to being a better person.”
When asked about the healing process and the time missed, the Oklahoma State defensive back can’t keep the smile off his face these days.

However, he didn’t always have such a positive outlook. Even as recently as June, Rawls sometimes fought through a sea of negative thoughts and emotions.

“I’m not back in my normal self just yet,” Rawls said, describing what kept him down. “I just can’t do everything like I used to. It is a process. It takes time being hurt. So, I feel like as the process goes on, it gets better and better. But there are still some days you take a step back. So those days, I have to keep lifting myself up to go attack the day.”


Oklahoma State safety Lyrik Rawls, left, started the first three games of his college career in 2023.
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Although Rawls said he feels 100% healthy now, Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy hasn’t yet seen the player he lost last season.
“He’s much better now than he was two weeks ago,” Gundy said. “I would say that, that should continue on. Two weeks from now, he should even be better. Middle of October, (if) he stays healthy, he should be somewhere where he was before he was injured.


Oklahoma State has a bye ahead of its seventh game this season at BYU on Oct. 18th. If the coaching staff prefers to limit his involvement until he’s back to his old self, that could be their target date.
Last year, then-freshman Cameron Epps started in Rawls’ place in 10 of the final 11 games, with Dylan Smith taking the other. Rawls will likely have to beat both of those guys and potentially UTEP transfer Kobe Hylton, who earned honorable mention All-Conference USA honors in 2022 and 2023.
“We’ll play a considerable number of guys,” Gundy said of the safety position. “That’s what we want to be able to get accomplished, keep guys fresh. We’re expecting that the depth we have allows us to grow and let guys stay healthy. Some of the issues that we deal with is that if a young player plays too much in his career early, then he gets tired, and that works against him. Right now, we have some depth there and some guys can rotate through, and that should help us.”

Tears of joy​

The 2024 season is only two weeks away, but Rawls can’t fully imagine what it will be like the first time he steps foot on the field for a game inside Boone Pickens Stadium.
“Oh man, I’ll probably just cry,” Rawls said. “Tears of joy because having the season took away from me like that. It was really hard for me. I was feeling isolated. … I feel like I’m gonna be so just happy to be back out there.”


OSU safety Lyrik Rawls, right, is fighting for a spot in the lineup during fall camp.
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His inability to be out there with his teammates might have left Rawls feeling disconnected from the Cowboys at times, but that feeling appears to be anything but mutual.
“Even when he was battling his injury, he was still around,” Oklahoma State cornerback Cam Smith said. “Still being a vocal leader, and I feel like that made him a better all-around player. Because even when he’s not in the game, he’s still coaching from the sideline.”


That made an impression on Smith.
“I think that just speaks volumes about who he is as a person,” the corner said. “He’s selfless.”

Of course, staying active in meetings and the film room didn’t just help Oklahoma State. Smith watched Rawls push himself to gain a better understanding of the defense even though he couldn’t put his knowledge to the test on the field.
“It’s been good having him back,” Oklahoma State cornerback Korie Black said. “Giving us more depth than we’ve had after losing him last year. He’s a good player, a good playmaker. He’s big and physical. A lot of people didn’t get to see him because he got hurt early in the season, but he’s doing great.”

But we are told it is those on the right who are the ones to be concerned about. SMFH

Sorry if all of this has already been discussed:

Bowman has completely reshaped his body. Does not look like the same person and has improved in every athletic metric with Glass and the S&C team.

Rangel continues to improve and is a good QB, who ultimately may just be a victim of circumstance at OSU with respects to playing time.

@BluegrassPoke

Flores is a completely different QB than he was at the end of spring camp. Worked hard both in Stillwater and with a private coach over the summer and it appears everything has clicked for him. Does not rely on athleticism to carry him as much as he did and is much more cerebral in his approach. That, combined with his athleticism, has everyone VERY excited.

Prefer 100s and 200s between the 20yd lines.
Willing to pay market but if you want to make sure tickets don’t go to a piggy let me know.


Thanks

But even so this doesn’t sound like something the most moral nation in human history should be doing to them.

Oh, wait, this is in the West Bank. Hamas is not in the West Bank. So now it *really* doesn’t sound like something the most moral nation in human history should do.

Damn, they’re so moral. I don’t know how to reconcile this with high morals

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During his lone season with the Rebels in 2023, Sanders completed 19 of his 29 total pass attempts for 278 yards along with three touchdown passes to zero turnovers. On the ground he added 11 rushes for 45 yards (4.1 YPC).

Or maybe communist. Difficult to tell sometimes.

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I'd love for someone to ask her if she still advocates for this type of policy.

Understanding why Israel treats Palestinians the way they do.

This is an old list. I have not seen a complete updated one since 2022, just individual tribunal results & punishments. If you don't believe any of this, fine, nobody is asking you to. You do need to steel yourselves for the upcoming global news. (John Roberts is a headliner)

Which Oklahoma State football game is most important this season?​

Scott Wright
The Oklahoman

STILLWATER — While commissioner Brett Yormark continually tells the world that the Big 12 is college football’s deepest conference, a more accurate explanation would be to call it the country’s most competitive one.

The difference between the team that finishes first in the league and the one that finishes eighth will be small, and trying to predict which teams will fall between first and eighth is a hopeless task.

Oklahoma State has been predicted as a top contender for the Big 12 title, a middle-of-the-pack finisher, and everything in between.

Last year, the Big 12 earned the nickname “The No Bad Teams League,” and this year could be much of the same, only with more teams.

Because of the conference’s competitive depth, every game is going to carry a more significant level of importance for a team like OSU, which has its sights set on a third championship game appearance in a four-year span.

But which ones will be the most important for the Cowboys? Let’s take a stab at figuring that out.

Here’s a look at the OSU schedule, ranking the games in order of importance:

1. at Kansas State (Sept. 28)​

The take: The Pokes’ last trip to Manhattan, Kansas, was an epic disaster — the 48-0 loss in 2022 that began the violent collapse of a top-10 team. This game comes two weeks into Big 12 play, following a home game against Utah, which is picked by many as the favorite for the league title. Kansas State is right there, too, so this is a chance for OSU to steal a road win that will likely have a heavy impact on the race for the championship game.

2. vs. West Virginia (Oct. 5)​

The take: More important than the Big 12 opener vs. Utah? Yes. The most important two-game stretch of the season is the Utah-Kansas State back-to-back. But the West Virginia game becomes highly important because of OSU’s need to turn the page to the rest of the schedule. A loss to Utah wouldn’t cripple the season, only shrink the margin for error. But this game will set the tone for the meat of the schedule where OSU needs to flex its muscle to prove its a legit contender for a return trip to JerryWorld.

3. vs. Utah (Sept. 21)​

The take: We’ve discussed what a loss here would do, but a win would be hugely valuable in November, should tiebreakers be needed to decide who will play for the Big 12 title. And just like last year, it seems highly likely that the league’s convoluted tiebreaker system will be needed. Beyond this season, it feels like OSU-Utah could be a significantly meaningful game on an annual basis, so stepping to the forefront of that matchup is important for the Pokes.

4. at TCU (Nov. 9)​

The take: Another place where OSU has had difficulty winning in recent years and the need to change the trend elevates the importance of this game. In its last three trips to Fort Worth, OSU has had two dismal performances and a blown lead. This game comes at the end of a four-week stretch that includes three road games, so the Cowboys could be road weary by the time they get here.

5. vs. South Dakota State (1 p.m., Aug. 31, ESPN+)​

The take: South Dakota State will arrive in Stillwater with a 29-game winning streak and full belief it can become 30. Sleep on the Jackrabbits and suffer the consequences. This could turn out to be the most challenging game of the non-conference schedule, so the Cowboys need to be on point right out the gate.

6. at BYU (9:15 p.m., Oct. 19, ESPN)​

The take: The Cougars took OSU to overtime in Stillwater last year, and BYU is a program looking to establish its place in the Big 12. A Friday night game in Provo should generate a wild atmosphere, and in case you’re curious, OSU’s last weeknight conference road game was in November 2011 — at Iowa State.

7. vs. Texas Tech (Nov. 23)​

The take: The Red Raiders feel like they could be a team to make a significant push toward contender status this year. OSU gets them at Boone Pickens Stadium near the end of the race for the Big 12 title game. And it’ll be the final home game for several key Cowboys, including quarterback Alan Bowman — who will be excited about the opportunity to post big numbers against his former team.

8. at Colorado (11 a.m., Nov. 29, ABC)​

The take: Colorado could put things together in Deion Sanders’ second year as coach, which would elevate the importance of this game. But for now, the Buffs remain a wild card, and there’s just as good a chance their season has collapsed by Thanksgiving weekend. Either way, the excitement around the Mike Gundy vs. Coach Prime matchup in a national broadcast on Black Friday will bring plenty of juice.

9. at Baylor (Oct. 26)​

The take: It’s hard to know what to expect from Baylor, with coach Dave Aranda being perhaps the Big 12 coach with the hottest seat entering the season. He has a new offensive coordinator, Oklahoma native and former OSU graduate assistant Jake Spavital. So by late October, the season could be taking off, or floundering. OSU has played well in Waco lately, so this should be a chance to continue that trend.

10. vs. Arkansas (11 a.m., Sept. 7, ABC)​

The take: Arkansas is picked to finish 14th in the SEC and OSU will be celebrating Leslie O’Neal’s induction into the Ring of Honor. Assuming the Cowboys take care of business a week earlier against South Dakota State, they’ll be in the right frame of mind to handle an Arkansas team that is struggling to find its way.

11. at Tulsa (11 a.m., Sept. 14, ESPN2)​

The take: An OSU loss here would be similar to the South Alabama loss last year, and the Pokes overcame that just fine. Perhaps the most valuable piece of this game is OSU getting a road game under its belt before jumping into Big 12 play.

12. vs. Arizona State (Nov. 2)​

The take: Just because it’s ranked last on the list doesn’t mean this game isn’t important. It’s just less important than the ones above it. The Sun Devils are expected to be one of the least formidable opponents on OSU’s schedule, and it’s homecoming, so the level of concern here is low.

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Seems media has suddenly turned on her as they did on Biden.

Happy birthday to former OSU defensive lineman Kevin Williams: Take a look back at his career​

• Stephen Pingry

Happy birthday to former OSU and NFL defensive lineman Kevin Williams, who turned 44 on Friday.

Williams infamously became the Minnesota Vikings' first-round pick in 2003 when the team's 15 minute clock expired for their pick. Both Jacksonville and Carolina made their picks before Minnesota finally got to choose Williams at ninth overall.

He made the NFL's Pro Bowl six times, and played for the Vikings until 2013. He finished his pro career with the Seattle Seahawks (2014) and New Orleans Saints (2015).

Take a look back at his career here:






OU vs OSU Football OSU #58 Kevin Williams is hugged by teammates after the defense held OU's last series pinned in the end zone in 2002.
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OSU's Kevin Williams and Kyle Beck take down Nebraska's Judd Davies, Oct. 19, 2002.
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OSU Kevin Williams gets past Texas Tech offensive linemen Dyklan Gandy and Rex Richards in the 1st quarter at Lubbock, Texas, Nov. 9, 2002.
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OSU's Kevin Williams wraps up KU's Clark Green during the KU football game, Nov. 16, 2002.
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OSU football's Kevin Williams talks to the media with head coach Les Miles and OSU AD Harry Birdwell in front of the Houston Bowl trophy, Dec. 26, 2002.
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Coach Mike Tice presents Minnesota Vikings number one draft pick Kevin Williams with his new jersey during a press conference Sunday, April 27, 2003, at Winter Park in Eden Prairie, Minn.
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Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams celebrates after recovering a fumble by Detroit Lions quarterback Joey Harrington during the second quarter Sunday, Nov. 6, 2005, in Minneapolis. (AP Photo/Tom Olmscheid)
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Minnesota Vikings Kevin Williams celebrates his 54-yard touchdown after intercepting a pass by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Joey Harrington during the first quarter in a football game, Sunday, Sept. 9, 2007, in Minneapolis. Minnesota won 24-3.(AP Photo/Tom Olmscheid)
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Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) gets taken down by Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams (93) during the first half of an NFL football game Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009, in Green Bay, Wis. (AP Photo/Mike Roemer)
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What a stupid dumb bitch. No company will produce goods and services at not a fair return, or at break even, or at a loss. Some will just shut it down, fewer jobs. Shortages. They really intend to turn the US in to a communist country. No more free market.

Unreal, just unreal.

Can Oklahoma State football's Josh Ford force way onto field as freshman? 'Dude's violent'​

Scott Wright
The Oklahoman

STILLWATER — Back in March, when Josh Ford still could’ve been a Stillwater High School student, he was instead making his presence known to the defensive linemen in Oklahoma State’s spring football practices.

The 6-foot-6, 245-pound freshman tight end flashed his physicality early upon his arrival as a Cowboy, catching the eye of coaches and teammates alike.

“Dude’s violent,” offensive lineman Cole Birmingham said. “He's aggressive. I mean, when he plays football, he doesn't think about anything but hitting somebody. So it's pretty cool to watch.”

Now that Ford has had eight months of learning the playbook, he might be the true freshman with the best chance to earn playing time this season.

Others could play at some point, but Ford is forcing his way into the conversation as OSU rebuilds its tight end depth chart.

The Cowboys brought in Tyler Foster as a transfer, and after a productive career at Ohio, the 6-foot-6, 255-pound super-senior seems like the clear favorite to start.

Quinton Stewart remains a reliable blocker who can fill the backup role. But Ford has a chance to be in the rotation with the two veterans.

The tight end became a more frequently used piece of the offense, particularly as a blocker last season, though Josiah Johnson was targeted 30 times as a receiver.



While Foster has the most well-rounded skillset, Ford’s physical nature will keep him in the mix for playing time.

“When you're a freshman, you kind of have a choice,” Birmingham said. “You don't really know what's going on. So you can either do everything as fast as you can and just try and (expletive) someone up, or just kind of be timid.

“Josh is one of those guys that chose to hit people, and he's learned the plays really, really fast.”

2024 Oklahoma State tight end/fullback depth chart​

Name, Class, Ht., Wt., Hometown (Previous school)

The starters​

Tight end

• Tyler Foster, RSr.*, 6-6, 255, Pickerington, Ohio (Ohio)

Fullback

• Jake Schultz, RSr.*, 6-3, 250, Prague

The reserves​

Tight end

• Quinton Stewart, RSr., 6-3, 250, Salina, Kansas (Central)
• Josh Ford, Fr., 6-6, 245, Stillwater
• Tabry Shettron, RSo., 6-4, 235, Edmond (Santa Fe)

Fullback

• Bryce Drummond, RJr., 6-3, 230, Pawhuska (North Texas)
• Luke McEndoo, RJr., 6-1, 265, Stillwater

The "Waterboy". Shared that with two coaches and they laughed then thought it was appropriate. Soooo, if it does stick, I wanted to be on the record now with it. Seriously, he kills people while blocking.

"I have to say, Miriam, I watched Sheldon sitting so proud, at the White House, when we gave the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest reward you can get as a citizen--its already much better than the Congressional Medal of Honor. Those guys are already shot up with bullets or they're dead. Instead he gets a healthy, beautiful woman."

Why is 2024 Oklahoma State football opener a midday kickoff? Don't ask coach Mike Gundy​

Scott Wright
The Oklahoman

STILLWATER — Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy says he had no input into the start time of the Cowboys’ season opener, set for 1 p.m. Aug. 31 against South Dakota State at Boone Pickens Stadium.

With the game to be broadcast on ESPN+, the university was given a level of control over the start time, settling on a midday kick when temperatures could still be in the mid-90s.

While an afternoon start has a lot of benefits for the university and the community, the heat will be a challenge for players and fans.

“You’d have to ask somebody else,” Gundy said when asked why 1 p.m. was chosen. “I didn’t have a say in a lot of these things. The contracts with these (non-conference) games were mainly done by other people. Not me. I just agreed to certain ones of them, but I don’t really have a lot to do with those.”

Though the Cowboys have been accustomed to night games in the early part of the season in recent years, this season’s other non-conference games, against Arkansas on Sept. 7 and at Tulsa on Sept. 14, are set for 11 a.m. kickoffs.

While the Cowboys are practicing in the late morning hours that provide a good amount of heat, South Dakota State can’t simulate Oklahoma weather on their campus, where temperatures are maxing out in the low 80s this time of year.

“I remember when I first got here, the humidity is a whole different ballgame,” said OSU junior defensive lineman Justin Kirkland, who is from Roy, Utah. “I hope they come hydrated. I hope we come hydrated.”



Gundy excited by Sean Snyder’s input
The hiring of former Kansas State punter and longtime special teams coach Sean Snyder is already showing benefits in practice.

Snyder not only has experience coaching special teams schemes, he also has a strong understanding of the mechanics of kicking and punting, which has allowed him to work intricately with those players.

“It’s been an interesting concept and a very good experience for me to watch,” Gundy said. “Most of what we’ve done will stay the course, but then there’s some things he wanted to do that we’ve changed a little bit.

“It’s been a really good learning experience for me.”

OSU was able to hire Snyder after a rule change was implemented that removed the limits for on-field coaches in college football.

Now, OSU has Snyder as well as special teams analyst Joseph Foteh working with those units when the previous rule would not have allowed either to participate in on-field coaching.

Gundy says he has continued to use position coaches as key voices in working with the special teams units as he has done in recent years as well.


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Tackling has improved for defense​

While the Cowboys often try to avoid actual to-the-ground tackling in preseason camp, Gundy has been pleased with what he’s seen from his defense in that phase lately.

“They’re tackling better now than they were at this time last year,” he said. “That’s something we stressed. We gotta get guys down. It’s challenging going against our offense. There’s a lot of experience out there. But every day they’re getting a little better.”

Gundy on South Dakota State​

Here’s what Gundy had to say when asked about the talent of his team’s first opponent, South Dakota State, which will come to Stillwater with a 29-game winning streak: “They’re physical, they’re tough, they’re not out of place much. They’re very well coached. The point spread they went through last year was huge. They’re very capable of playing a Power Four conference schedule, I’ll put it that way. Teams that haven’t lost a game in a while are difficult to play, because they don’t know how to lose. All they’ve ever done is win. So you have to take the game away from them.”

OSU announces full season sellout​

For the second straight year, OSU football has sold out every home football game — and this is the first time it has accomplished it before the season began.

OSU announced a full sellout of season tickets a few weeks ago, but still had mini plans and single game tickets, which now have all been sold. That includes all suites, club level seats and student all-sports passes.

Don’t let the fact I posted this link scare you off from reading it. I’m curious what the Evangelicals among us think about what he says.

Bibi has assured us he’ll kill Palestinians until Hamas is obliterated. As Bearcat likes to put it: as many dead women, children, babies and old people as it takes. Only an anti-Semite would think the Chosen People could not complete the task. Is the US intelligence community anti-Semitic? AIPAC better get on this right away!