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Summary: he's hoping to get the book done soon, there will be differences between the books and the series, and while there's still no release date, he hints that it may be in the hands of the publishers already.
Possibly Lady Stoneheart or any of the other characters they have left out.
Nobody thinks the curveball might be Jon Snow? Like....he spends the remainder of the story as a warg in his direworf instead of keeping the human character alive in the HBO series?
I'm mostly joking....but....not completely. I don't trust GRRM!
Stannis is dead in the show and alive in the books, so it makes the most sense that it would be him. I think there is a good chance that he dies before the end of the books, but that does not mean that he won't do something of significance before his death. I am expecting him to rescue fake Arya and Theon, then take Winterfell from the Boltons/Freys in TWOW. Maybe that is what GRRM was talking about.
Is Stannis actually dead in the show? We never truly saw him die. One could even argue that we saw Jon Snow more dead than Stannis.
Is Stannis actually dead in the show? We never truly saw him die. One could even argue that we saw Jon Snow more dead than Stannis.
I guess that is fair. The way I see it, HBO had Melisandre leave Stannis and show up at Castle Black for a reason. It is difficult to imagine her not resurrecting Jon Snow.
On the other hand, Stannis might be still alive, but it is difficult to imagine why that would be. His army is devastated. His chances of ever sitting the Iron Throne are gone. They were completely dependent upon him freeing Winterfell and gaining support of all of the Northern Lords. In addition, it does not seem to be in Brienne's nature to have last minute mercy on the man who was responsible for the death of Renly.
I will be very surprised if Stannis is still alive. I will be very surprised if Jon is not resurrected by Mel.
I don't see why Stannis would be alive either just saying we didn't actually see him dead.
All this thread is doing is making me realize I need to re-read all the books before WoW comes out.
Thanks for the head's up, Vito. I'll give them a look.I know the remarks in this thread have made me realize just how far HBO has strayed from the books. I forgot Selmy even had a POV in the books. lol
Just finished the first Hedge Knight book and loved it. Also if you haven't bought this map type book you need to I love it and am going to have them framed.
Well there goes my theory on the Nights King and Cersi getting married and ruling Westeros. I got this question and a quote from GRRM out of an article I read today. Thought I would share it here to give @The Duke some hope.
The number one question people ask me about the series is whether I think everyone will lose—whether it will end in some horrible apocalypse. I know you can’t speak to that specifically, but as a revisionist of epic fantasy—
(GRRM response):
I haven’t written the ending yet, so I don’t know, but no. That’s certainly not my intent. I’ve said before that the tone of the ending that I’m going for is bittersweet. I mean, it’s no secret that Tolkien has been a huge influence on me, and I love the way he ended Lord of the Rings. It ends with victory, but it’s a bittersweet victory. Frodo is never whole again, and he goes away to the Undying Lands, and the other people live their lives. And the scouring of the Shire—brilliant piece of work, which I didn’t understand when I was 13 years old: “Why is this here? The story’s over?” But every time I read it I understand the brilliance of that segment more and more. All I can say is that’s the kind of tone I will be aiming for. Whether I achieve it or not, that will be up to people like you and my readers to judge.
I saw something earlier this week or last week that a young Ned Stark had been cast. People surmised at the time that it would be for a Tower of Joy scene, and now with confirmation this location is being used as the Tower, it seems a pretty safe bet.Ya I think I saw that it won't be Sean Bean but I am not 100% positive this is correct.
Looks like a good place for Ned to kill the greatest knight he ever knew with a little help from his little friend.
I always pictured a more... Well, less fortressy building as the actual Tower.
@cornichon
Very interesting. I am very curious as to how HBO chooses to share the Tower of Joy events with the viewer. In the books, we get what information we have from what is basically a flashback within Ned's mind. I can see 3 possible ways we get to see the Tower of Joy events from HBO.
1). HBO casts Howland Reed and he tells someone the story while the viewer gets to see what he is narrating.
2). HBO brings Bran's mystical powers into the story line and he becomes the vehicle for showing us events that happened in the past. (this would not necessarily be in line with the books, as it seems that Bran can only see past events that occurred next to a Weirwood tree).
3). HBO could do what is done in many movies/shows....They could just give us a graphic that says "16 years ago" and then show the events.
As an aside, I wonder if Sean Bean (Ned Stark) will be back to film the scene. My guess is we get a new actor who plays the young Ned Stark, which would allow them to film other past scenes over the last 3 seasons of the show.
Remember there was a Cercei flashback this last season from her childhood. And as I recall there was no context, it was simply a scene that jumped to Cercei sitting there thinking once it was done.