Anybody wanna form a Cruz fan club?
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How will you attack him? Smart. Son of a Latino immigrant.
You might actually have to discuss issues. Does that scare you?
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Don't forget hated by the powers that be in the party he wants to be the nominee for. Democrats won't have to attack him, Republicans are going to do that dirty work.
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So, outside of getting under liberal's skin, what exact policy proposals has he had that you are against?
I don't think he could win a general election, I'm really just not sure why liberal's are so afraid of him.
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I don't think he could win a general election, I'm really just not sure why liberal's are so afraid of him.
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How about we compare Cruz's college records against Obama's?
I think that would be interesting but it's never going to happen. An affirmative action student (Obama) vs. a real achiever (Cruz).
I think that would be interesting but it's never going to happen. An affirmative action student (Obama) vs. a real achiever (Cruz).
Exact proposals:
S. 2024Proposing to reduce funding for NASA and NOA over disagreements on climate science/climate changeNot a policy per se, but kinda funny, that he lamented not being able to call Bruce Willis to a Senate hearing on external threats to the earth from things like meteors and comets.
By all accounts a smart guy, but he panders to a religious base rather than focusing on coherent and consistent policy. My 2¢.
If this is directed at me... I have no interest in attacking Cruz. His record speaks for itself and if nominated I believe he would lose. See above for a couple of specific disagreements I have with Cruz.
David, you support a guy that panders to the extreme environmentalist as opposed to coherent policy.
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Originally posted by poke2001:
David, you support a guy that panders to the extreme environmentalist as opposed to coherent policy.
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Love the ignore button, Part Deux.
I'm not going to attack him, and I suspect no democrat will either. Were it up to me, I'd have him on tv every night sharing his worldview and politics.
Which guy is that? I have no dog yet in the next presidential election - really no one looks appealing to me right now.
It's refreshing to me to see a person run on their principles and not waiver because of political correctness. He'll have a hard time winning because he does just that. If a liberal ever ran on what they truly believe they wouldn't stand a chance. Ever. I think what drives these liberals nuts is the fact he says our rights come from god not government. Man that stings right to the core.
The current guy, dude. You gave supported him through every single terrible policy.
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Yes, he inherited a crippling recession from a republican president and now we have a booming economy. If he had us in a crippling recession, invaded the wrong country, or gave up on killing Osama bin Laden, I guess his policies would be better for us.
I talked to an old friend yesterday I haven't seen for years. She was giddy over the cruz announcement. She LOVES Cruz, because "he prays for guidance from the lord." Results? Bleh-- just make sure his decisions are based on what a ghost tells him. Now THAT is how to build a country!
This republican primary season will be vaudeville entertainment like we've never seen. There are more wingnuts scrambling for wingnut attention than ever before.
I talked to an old friend yesterday I haven't seen for years. She was giddy over the cruz announcement. She LOVES Cruz, because "he prays for guidance from the lord." Results? Bleh-- just make sure his decisions are based on what a ghost tells him. Now THAT is how to build a country!
This republican primary season will be vaudeville entertainment like we've never seen. There are more wingnuts scrambling for wingnut attention than ever before.
Sys, you didn't strike me overly as a bigot. But I've been wrong before, so correcting my understanding (that you are a bigot) is edifying. I'll chalk this up to not paying much attention to you.
GOP Rep. Peter King of NY has threatened to jump off a bridge if Cruz gets GOP nomination. I can scarcely envision a higher endorsement.
Flailing, Sys, flailing. It's been apparent from day one that you're not very bright.
Solve for Sys =
(CUP) * (59%) - (the generally good attitude) - (the occasional comedic value)
I may amend that.
Solve for Sys =
(CUP) * (59%) - (the generally good attitude) - (the occasional comedic value)
I may amend that.
I'm trying to learn some more about Cruz. Honestly, I am more of a Rand guy, but I'm willing to give him a chance. The fact that cartoon characters like sys are so clearly afraid of him tell me that he's he's worth looking at.
He's for abolishing the IRS and instituting a flat tax. POSITIVE
Too gung ho on hitching his wagon to being anti-gay marriage, defining "marriage" etc. BIG NEGATIVE
Acknowledges climate change but not convinced it is caused by humans. Meh... I agree I guess.
magna cum laude from Prinston and Harvard = probably smarter than the last two guys combined. POSITIVE
Talks a good game about the Constitution and rule of law. Words are cheap, but... POSITIVE
Wants to repeal Obamacare and Net Neutrality Good. This is probably why he's being demonized already. POSITIVE
Seems potentially a bit too hawkish, but might also help reestablish some of what the big O has eroded. However, this will lead to more spending which makes me question his resolve regarding financial conservatism.
Honestly, I am concerned we just WANT this guy to be the anti-establishment GOP candidate. Not convinced that he is. Sounds like he's trying to be all things to all GOP voters. Boring. Give me Rand.
He's for abolishing the IRS and instituting a flat tax. POSITIVE
Too gung ho on hitching his wagon to being anti-gay marriage, defining "marriage" etc. BIG NEGATIVE
Acknowledges climate change but not convinced it is caused by humans. Meh... I agree I guess.
magna cum laude from Prinston and Harvard = probably smarter than the last two guys combined. POSITIVE
Talks a good game about the Constitution and rule of law. Words are cheap, but... POSITIVE
Wants to repeal Obamacare and Net Neutrality Good. This is probably why he's being demonized already. POSITIVE
Seems potentially a bit too hawkish, but might also help reestablish some of what the big O has eroded. However, this will lead to more spending which makes me question his resolve regarding financial conservatism.
Honestly, I am concerned we just WANT this guy to be the anti-establishment GOP candidate. Not convinced that he is. Sounds like he's trying to be all things to all GOP voters. Boring. Give me Rand.
Uh, sys we don't have a booming economy. There is a reason that the Fed is "Patient" on raising interest rates after 6 years of our so called recovery.....which happens to be the worse post recession recovery in our lifetime. Also, wages have fallen for the middle class since Obama took office, more people on food stamps, highest number of Americans not working since Carter. The real unemployment rate is double digits too. But as long as Barry says it's good no worries because all the koolaid drinking libs & media lap it up.
I agree Obama should and could have done more for the middle class. It's not a new development though, and frankly it's about 110% the cause of conservative politics, imo.
Check out this article and data: https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/labor/report/2011/04/04/9421/unions-make-the-middle-class/
I find it par for the course that the conservatives on these boards occasionally criticize the prez for not doing enough to help the middle class, while also advocating busting unions.
sure the middle class struggles are on Obama?
Check out this article and data: https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/labor/report/2011/04/04/9421/unions-make-the-middle-class/
I find it par for the course that the conservatives on these boards occasionally criticize the prez for not doing enough to help the middle class, while also advocating busting unions.
sure the middle class struggles are on Obama?
Before you get too far out with this guy, you should know that he turned his back to rock n' roll.
Now he doesn't like rock n' roll because of 911.
Outside of the two things highlighted I think he's a good candidate.
Why can't Republicans shut their pie holes about socially conservative issues and talk nothing but fiscal conservatism and liberty.
I don't have a problem with someone being against gay marriage but it is a ship that has sailed, get over it. When it comes to abortion, say you are against it when asked and move on IMMEDIATELY.
Good question. I'm sure there is a formulaic answer regarding what you have to say in order to get the funding from the religious right - who should be completely ignored by political candidates. Who the hell are they going to vote for? A Constitutional Republican or a Socialist Democrat? Why keep giving them the choice of the social conservative who gets so tripped up over this shit that they become unelectable? Honestly makes me believe more and more that it's just one statist power structure where different candidates are little more than a shell game to make you believe you are electing anyone at all.
But I digress. Let me remove my foil hat and pretend that there is still a difference between R's and D's.
It's sort of become my litmus test for any GOP candidate - Are they about fiscal responsibility and limited government or not? So much as expressing an opinion on gay marriage is dereliction of duty, as the government shouldn't be involved in marriage contracts AT ALL.
The less I know about their stance on gay marriage, the more I like them generally. I am so sick of politicians even uttering the words, "definition of marriage" that when they do, I want to f*ing punch them until they forget what they were talking about. How about definition of liberty? Definition of Constitutionality?
Tell ya what Sys. This article actually does make me not trust Ted Cruz. Who changes a lifetime of musical interest based on politics to the point that you are no longer interested in an entire genre of unrelated artists whose music supposedly once meant something to you?
A lowest common denominator courting politician who wants the Toby Keith bumper sticker guy to think this Ivy League Cuban is one of them after all. Boot up yer ass, son! It's transparently not authentic. A comment said it best. I hope Ted Cruz will remember. A southern man don't need him around anyhow.
Would be interesting to hear him explain this dumb shit to Ted Nugent.
Anyway, F* obama.
While Sys was flaming, this actually turned out to be a fairly decent discussion. I'm more of a Rand guy, but I actually learned a few things about Cruz on the plus and minus side. My only real concern with Rand is that he might be a little too much on the isolationist side, but I'm likely close to a 100% on his side with domestic policy.
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As of right now Rand is my guy as well. However, for whatever reason, I don't think he's going to run.
Two things that are HUGE in Ted Cruz's favor and if Rand Paul is for them then I would most likely go for him over Cruz.
Cruz wants to abolish the IRS. This may turn out to be his strongest position.
He also wants to repeal and replace Obamacare which will absolutely have to be done at some point.
Cruz wants to abolish the IRS. This may turn out to be his strongest position.
He also wants to repeal and replace Obamacare which will absolutely have to be done at some point.
Voted Against the NDAA - POSITIVE
Co-Sponsored the most recent iteration of the Patriot Act - BIG NEGATIVE
Foreign Policy - BIG NEGATIVE - guy is war hawk and firmly in the pockets of, Isreal, war profiteers, and bankers. I'll give him credit for not wanting to engage in long-term nation building but at the end of the day he is very big on interventionism and American Imperialism. I mean look at his most trusted advisors - John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, & James Woolsey
Co-Sponsored the most recent iteration of the Patriot Act - BIG NEGATIVE
Foreign Policy - BIG NEGATIVE - guy is war hawk and firmly in the pockets of, Isreal, war profiteers, and bankers. I'll give him credit for not wanting to engage in long-term nation building but at the end of the day he is very big on interventionism and American Imperialism. I mean look at his most trusted advisors - John Bolton, Elliott Abrams, & James Woolsey
OSUDirt is correct. There is 0% chance that the IRS ever gets eliminated and anyone that makes that a big part of their campaign will get destroyed. I also think a repeal of Obamacare is highly unlikely. It can be reasonably tinkered with and altered but our country doesn't eliminate entitlement programs, we add to them.
I see Cruz as a guy that might be able to be a front runner for a week or two until he is fully vetted by the public then he'll fade quickly, mainly due to a lack of money. Frankly, I think Jeb, Christie, and maybe Scott Walker are the only candidates that will be able to raise money for the long haul. I love Rand and will vote for him if he runs, but everything would have to break perfectly for him to have a legit shot. Barring something crazy, it's going to be Jeb.
Jeb sucks. If people haven't had enough of the Bush's and Clinton's we are officially screwed.
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No kidding Jeb sucks! If he is the nominee you might as well hand the whole deal the hilldabeast or even Biden for that matter. Jeb put the "R" in RINO, and will be a dissaster if elected. Why in the world would you elect a wolf in sheeps clothing (Bush) when all he would do is further crush a conservative message by acting like the RINO he is?
I would easily throw my hat in with Walker as he has accomplished a ton in blue Wisconsin, including crushing the dam unions. Christie is a complete loser and at some point in the campaign (assuming he made it to the nominee podium) would absolutely show his ass at some point and lose too many voters to get elected. Could also go for Rand, but the field gets extremely thin after that.
Think this is going to be one of those elections that depends a ton on who the VP nominee is.
I would easily throw my hat in with Walker as he has accomplished a ton in blue Wisconsin, including crushing the dam unions. Christie is a complete loser and at some point in the campaign (assuming he made it to the nominee podium) would absolutely show his ass at some point and lose too many voters to get elected. Could also go for Rand, but the field gets extremely thin after that.
Think this is going to be one of those elections that depends a ton on who the VP nominee is.
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