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You asked so here it is!! Time to start the hype to our 5th straight WCWS appearance. Fall ball starts this weekend. Let's Go!!!!

It’s always a tragic mistake. When they show you what they’re willing to do eventually you have no choice but to conclude it’s intentional, not a tragic mistake.

Does anyone know or at least have a guess as to our chances of not having to listen to this guy anymore. It would be great to hear J. Carl again but almost anyone would be better, except Askren of course.

A collection of former team members and recruits (commits) and their lives post OSU:

Daniel Greg Kerkvliet - Never made it to campus - Committed to Minnesota, Flipped to Oklahoma State - Enrolled at Ohio State - European Vacation with Cael, and Portal to PSU - National Champ


Anthony Montalvo - Arizona State - Pushed out of the lineup in Stillwater, best season at OSU 21-5 National Qualifier COVID year. 6-8 @ ASU


Travis Wittlake - Oregon State - Unfortunate ending to a great career, $113,000 raised through gofundme.


Austin Harris - Life University- NAIA Runner Up @ 285 his senior year


Keegan Moore - UNI - OU - Douchebag tendencies.


Brevin Balmaceda - Life University- 2x NAIA National Champ - 157 lbs. - Left Stillwater after a run in with campus police. Wrestled Alex Facundo @ 2018 Who’s #1. One year eligibility remaining.


Jace Luchau - University of the Cumberlands - Commit who wrestled Andrew Alirez @ 152 Who’s number one also 2018 -


Elise Brown Ton- Commit who flipped to Nebraska late in the cycle - Sister’s career has overshadowed his to this point, she is at Iowa


Eli Hale - UCO - Midseason transfer, won D2 national title that year, currently on staff at UCO.


Cade Lindsey - Fort Hays State - D2 All American Junior year 3rd at 174 only wrestled once this year, in January, it was a loss, possible medical RS.


Chance McLane - Arizona State - went 11-10 as a starter this year at 165. Probably 2 years remaining.


Triston Wills - Little Rock - a 4 year starter for the Trojans has a career record of 50-42, never made the dance, was famously choked out by that cheater from OU, Mantanona.


Jakason Burks- Iowa Western Community College - Central Missouri - went 6-2 as a true freshman for the Cowboys before heading to JuCo - two seasons in Iowa and a NJCAA Runner Up finish, landed him at Central Missouri, he was 2-0 this season with a tech and major at 125.


Any Ferrari - See Keegan Moore, but worse, way worse.


Daniel Jezik - North Central College - Plays football for the Cardinals.


George Marsh - Country Music - Former heavyweight prospect did what any kid from New Braunfels Texas should, pursue a musical career…


Trevor Mastrogiovanni- zoo


Cooper Birdwell - Wyoming - went 8-9 as a part time starter for Branch at 133, lost to Daton 8-2 in the dual.


Travis Mastrogiovanni- Northern Colorado - starter most of the year at 174 for the Bears, went 11-4 on the season, inj def in early February and only one match after that.


Luke Mechler - Wisconsin - 6-19 as a starter for the Badgers this season at 157. 2 seasons left.


Victor Voinovich - Iowa - went 8-5 in matches at 149, including a loss to JW in the dual, 2 seasons left, also lost his brother.


Hunter Worthen- Wartburg - went 1-4 on the season this year.

Not to detail the Board 😊

Although it’s not my intention, this will surely ruffle some feathers.

Listening to the National guys seemed to crystallize something. Here goes.

Hypothesis:
•Penn State recruits on an elite, worldwide level.
•Okla State has recruited at an elite level the past 6-7 years under Tyler Caldwell.
•The major differences are:
-PSU has been able to recruit elite talent at every weight
-OSU has taken elite guys regardless of weight and based on rank which has caused logjams. In other words, PSU has had the pick of the litter, and has been able to disperse talent.
-OSU has had to scratch and claw to get guys, leverage key relationships, leverage non-near term success (I remember being concerned about Daton, which seems ridiculous in hindsight…at the time, there were some moments of doubt as he was taking visits).
-Athletes have chosen Penn State based on what they have been doing right now vs. what they have done or what they will do.
-OSU has had to take more risks on talented guys that PSU has not had to worry about (certain people were never going to get a look from PSU).

There might be other factors I’m missing; and some of my hypothesis might need refinement.

That said, this Christian Carroll & Cody Merrill situation seems indicative of what I’m proposing. Two elite talents basically at the same weight. Thia will seem to require a serious feat to keep both in the lineup at the same time.

The easy answer is, both these guys are Heavyweights. Which seems like a concern.

OSU had to flip Carroll (fight, scratch, claw) and then added Merrill (leveraging DC and favorable geography).

Quick pause to say, I’m thrilled both of these guys are Cowboys and hope to see them both have phenomenal careers…all at Okla State.

The question is; how is it going to work out?

Is 3 years of 197 Carroll & 285 Merrill possible? Probable?

Here’s a question, who would win 197 if Merrill could get down? Pyles is saying Merrill is already college ready.

Probably enough rambling from me. Anxious to hear thoughts/discussion.

I guess the shine is off the DT era. Oh well, I guess I have better things to do than read who a bunch of guys I don't even know think will wrestle for us in 6 months.

There was a time there when it wouldn't go eight minutes

Originally an exhibition with head gear… now no headgear and an official fight..

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carry on

You boys will like this one. The driver is an average, every-day Paki.

Sooner ace pitcher has been named to the World Baseball Softball Competition team. Tournament to be played in Japan. I see this as noteworthy, being a Bedlam School.

11 straight years for Osu baseball in the post season under Holliday. The only college baseball programs with more consecutive appearances currently are LSU, Florida and Vanderbilt. That is ELITE company. Josh and Rob get all the credit for putting this roster together and hitting the 40 win mark already with the Big 12 tourney championship in hand.
I know. We all want a home regional win and a deep run to Omaha and that should be the goal for Osu baseball every year. But let’s step back and appreciate the fact that over the last 12 seasons, OSU has never not been relevant in college baseball. And love the fact that Josh and Rob are so passionate about our ( and their) university.

dudd can pick the stonks


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One of the first portal entrants I’ve seen us make contact with.

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I’m sorry but I’ve had enough of the huge multi page threads. The cowgirl softball this season had 1 thread. Sorry. Not gonna read thru 80 pages of stuff. If you have something to say, start a new thread. There’s other cases too. Basketball recruiting has been just awful to follow the past couple of years w threads that are over 100 pages. Realignment is trending in the same direction.

So, looking at our pitching options, there are a couple of ways of looking a things.

Reasons to start Benge in the opener
1) Benge has pitched outstanding in his three starts and makes you feel comfortable starting him against Niagara.
2) You obviously save your two aces for Florida and/or Nebraska and have one of the two (if you win your first two games) to pitch in the championship.
3) Benge may be a better fit against Niagara than Florida. Benji is more of a power pitcher. Without knowing for certain, Florida, with their plethora of power hitters, are more likely to have success against a power righty versus a a power lefty (Garcia) or a junker/softer righty (Holiday).

Reasons to start Garcia against Niagara
1) Losing the opener is hard to overcome so you want to go with your best.
2) Garcia is a lefty and Niagara’s lineup is lefty heavy, including three of its top four hitters and by far its best hitter.
3) It keeps everyone on their regular schedule: Bubba on Friday, Brian on Saturday, Benji on Sunday.
4) Garcia and Holiday are proven - or at least more proven - to give you seven or eight innings (or maybe even a CG) and saving your pen for later in the tournament can be vital, especially if you fall into the loser’s bracket.
5) You don’t want to take the chance of being knocked out of the tournament without even using one of your two aces.

All of that being said:
I’d go Benge, Garcia, Holiday. I think it gives you the matchups that give you the best advantages and the best chance to win the tournament.

It really is sad to know that such people exist, and even sadder to know that they don’t get any better with age. I don’t know that Dan is an atheist, but this kid apparently studied his debate playbook.

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125 - Sprately. Hopefully AA, but the weight is very deep again.
133 - Who knows. I was hoping Hughes, but is he too big? Sakamoto should redshirt - no folkstyle experience and a true frosh.
141 - Jamison? Hughes? Young? Possible AA.
149 - Williams - should be AA if he wants it. Lots of talent.
157 - I like Travis after a year of lifting. Possible AA - this weight clears out a lot.
165 - Portal
174 - Portal. Thompson should redshirt and go to 184lb the following year
184 - Plott - hopefully finalist again
197 - Caroll. Potential to be a high AA. He's an elite talent - the kind that we need up and down the lineup.
Hwt - Doucet. He could sneak in a low AA. Weight clears out quite a bit. Merrill should redshirt. He'll be a true frosh and too small. He is another elite talent though. Just hope he's big enough for heavy the year after.

The bad news is we're only returning 1 AA which is ridiculous for OSU. It's like Smith just hung it up after the string of national titles in the early 2000s and stopped recruiting elite talent and let all the other programs catch up. With Gable gone, the platform was there for OSU to establish itself as "THE" place for elite talent to come, like PSU is now but Smith blew it.

The good news is I think the future trajectory has changed from down to flat to in the up direction again finally. Once you've hit rock bottom it's hard to climb out of that hole though. I think Smith is finally using the modern tools of recruiting and Coleman is helping tremendously. Next year with no help from the Portal we're probably sitting at around 3, maybe 4 AA. With help hopefully more. There has been some good recruiting lately - the elite talent that it takes to get back to the top 3. Caroll, Merrill, Sakamoto, Lockett - These guys have the potential to win multiple titles - we just need more of them.

The 2nd Court of Appeals ruled it was reasonable for government to pressure businesses to terminate business relationships to silence advocacy government disagreed with? Just goes to show you how precarious our Constitutional protections are when a court of appeals rules against those protections because of their ideological beliefs.

5/31-6/02

Excited for this. More so with Cael and Dee sitting in best of 3.

Who can we expect here from the current roster and commits? Hoping most of the team outside of Plott, Surber, Hamiti (assume he is older), and Doucet.